AndCavanaugh
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Both are good.
I press the top button with the pad of my finger, and the bottom button with the side of my finger, so I think a heavy top button is okay, but a heavy bottom button would be uncomfortable. Patek’s top heavy and Lange’s balanced style are both good by me. I’ve tried Lange’s triple split, on that watch the hammers need to move a lot more mass but I don’t remember the bottom button being uncomfortable to press.
Lange’s original L951 reset system, you push the hammers directly onto the heart cams, which is the traditional way of doing flyback, but I don't like it. Many years ago Lange upgraded the L951 with a new two-part hammer design, which I like a lot. Patek’s system is pretty traditional for a non-flyback but I like the self-adjusting hammers. So once again, both are good.
These are pictures of the two hammer designed for the L951, the Dato perpetual (non tourbillon) still uses the one part design, all others have been upgraded to the two part hammer.
Two (New)
One (Old)
Two (New)
One (Old)
Chronograph pusher feel - a matter of taste?
Is chronograph pusher feel a matter of mechanics alone or does taste also enter the equation? Take the CH 29-535. The start/stop pusher has a distinct break point that requires a decent amount of pressure to overcome. By contrast the reset pusher presents...
My Lange dato and 1815 chrono are butter smooth compared to my other watches.
I suspect it has everything to do with build quality
Choices
I’d be interested to hear from a watchmaker on this. I’m sure build quality plays a role but the fact the two pushers on the 29-535 feel so different makes me wonder if there’s a choice here on pusher feel. Patek’s start/stop pusher is different but I don...
great question, and it leads me a broader topic I am thinking through
As I debate between an ALS 1815 chronograph and a Patek 5172, I understand the Lange will have that smoothness and objectively finer movement, and a smaller diameter to boot. Yet despite this I feel drawn to the 5172, as I absolutely adore the looks of it...
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I have both the 1815 Chrono and the 5172. They’re very different watches. The 5172 is more of a daily while the 1815 has more of a special occasion feel, particularly in rose gold. I think the movements are very close in quality - the Lange has more contr...
great perspective
to obtain the 5172, I would be giving up the white gold black dial duometre chrono limited edition, which I think you have too. I am not sure I am ready to do that! although that one I don't wear as much because of the thickness.
I have two chronos.
Daytona 116520 and Daytona 116500LN. The newer model def feels more snappy. Both feel very smooth.
Personally it doesn’t matter to me
I’ve also found the same model can feel different.
Could it be because
german silver which is actually an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc is much more malleable than stainless steel so in order to not damage over time the movement Langes pushers are softer then Pateks? This is just a theory though, I wish a watchmaker would...
It's because the Patek's reset force doesn't come from the reset pusher.
I’m not a watchmaker, but I can give a definitive answer on this. When you start the CH 29-535 you also cock the hammers, which are in place by a latch. When you press the reset button the latch releases the hammers. Note how the hammers sit home against ...
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That’s very helpful thank you. Good to know why it’s so different. What are your thoughts on the start/stop pusher feel?
Both are good.
I press the top button with the pad of my finger, and the bottom button with the side of my finger, so I think a heavy top button is okay, but a heavy bottom button would be uncomfortable. Patek’s top heavy and Lange’s balanced style are both good by me. ...
Thanks! And the pusher feel is different
between these two watches because what you are pushing in the mechanism with the pushers and how much force you have to apply in order to make it work is different? In Lange what the pusher needs to do within the mechanism when you push it, require a less...
Two Breguet chronos.
The 5247 is butter smooth; the 3800 nearly pops. I always wondered about the difference and am curious if it matters.
Two different movements...
Lemania 2310 which is a column wheel versus Lemania 1350 which is cam-based. Might have something to do with the actuation mechanism, but could also have a lot to do with tuning of the movement.
The pushers of the 5070 movement are smoother, too. But I have no problems with harder pushers. It all depends on the purpose of the watch.. I mean with a tool watch or a military watch, it is not a big problem.
For a more elegant / regined watch, well the smoother, the better. My 2 cents...