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Question re 5514 please....

 
 By: vernon : May 29th, 2012-10:54

Hello everyone,

I'm not often found on here but like others I have suddenly gotten a desire for a vintage Submariner.

I have a question re the ref 5514 please. Were these produced as non Comex watches or were they all for Comex?

Even if a watch does'n't have the Comex logo on the dial (which I know from researching on here and other places that some don't) should it have Comex and a number on the case back?

Or are there some 5514's that are not Comex watches at all?

I'd be really grateful for any wisdom.

Many thanks,

Vernon.

 

You are on the right path

 
 By: Bill : May 29th, 2012-11:15
It is also my understanding that there are 5514 models that did not have Comex on the dial.  While having the Comex on the dial is more desirable the markings on the case back are the way to "authenticate".  There are a couple of flavors and sizes the the comex markings and numbers come in.  I will have to research a little to find images to clarify.  But as with all Rolex vintage buy the seller and if the deal is too good to be true it is most likely too good to be true.

I am sure you will have some more expert opinions than my superficial response.

Bill

5514

 
 By: gensiulia : May 29th, 2012-12:11
All the ref. 5514 is for Comex only, with or without Comex logo on the dial (about 450 untis)
yes, you can find sub number caseback engraving also on the "no-logo" 5514.
btw. there are also 5513 comex with logo, 5513 no-logo with HEV (really rare) and even 5514 with no vale (maybe only 1 piece)
there's something for every taste biggrin

chris

Civilian 5514's

 
 By: DrStrong : May 29th, 2012-13:22
about 4 years ago, some "civilian" 5514's appeared on the market.

Correct watches with HEV, but no Comex engraving.

IMHO these watches have been "put together" with spare 5514 cases.

Just my 0.02 cts.

This is what confuses me with vintage Rolex pieces.

 
 By: Topcat30093 : May 30th, 2012-00:58
The numbering is all similar, 5512, 5513, 5514, 5517 etc.

Yet they are all slightly different. Some of the differences are obvious, such as a HEV sword style hands. 

Were others, unless you are a true expert would never notice the difference.

Then you can start with the 1680 & 1665 etc.

No wonder we novices are so scared to put a toe into the water!

Bill, I shall look forward to hopefully seeing some photos to help us understand these differences.

Regards

Tony

Like in any collection of vintage objects...

 
 By: DrStrong : May 30th, 2012-04:33
...small details become very important at some point


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those are the important bits! [nt]

 
 By: vernon : May 30th, 2012-06:32
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you're right - it's scary!! [nt]

 
 By: vernon : May 30th, 2012-06:46
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what about

 
 By: vernon : May 30th, 2012-06:50

a watch with service papers identifying it as a 5514 and with a serial number dating it to 1977 but with no comex markings on the back or dial?

Were there such watches? Are they 'franken watches' or do they count as genuine 5514's?

This is very scary for me - I can't afford to get it wrong!

Maybe I should go buy a new explorer!!!

Thanks,

Vernon

It would be interesting.....

 
 By: DrStrong : May 30th, 2012-09:11
....to know what the Rolex records say about these watches.

They are probably genuine 5514's.

Definitely not Comex watches.

Most likely never sold or delivered by Rolex.

I'm very grateful for your help, and...

 
 By: vernon : May 30th, 2012-11:22

on balance it seems a bit risky buying such a watch, especially given the premium being sought, especially if it's only 'probably' genuine and probably never sold or delivered by Rolex as this gives it a sort of curious no mans land status I think.

It's a shame as it does seem a little special, but perhaps the novice should stick to safer waters.

Again, thank you so much for your help.

Vernon.