Rolex

I am looking for a good everyday watch to be worn with casual / smart casual wear.  I've looked at the AP Royal Oak, the VC Overseas Dual Time, the Glashutte Panolunar XL, yet I keep finding myself drawn to the Rolex DSSD.  Has anyone found another watch they liked nearly as much as the DSSD or could you recommend another watch for me to consider before I make my purchase?  I'd really appreciate any thoughts on this

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Omega IMHO does not deliver the 'je ne sais quoi' of Rolex... There is something about a Rolex both mental and actual... that is solely theirs... (or yours if you own one.) Omega, I love the Seamaster chrono with 'pedestrian' 7750 inside... a GREAT rugged masculine legible uniquely Omega chrono that IMO, looks GREAT, functions brilliantly, and is WORTH the money.... I'm not a fan of most Omegas these days, because they have little connection to their drool-worthy past... BUT... there's a few new Omegas out there that are nothing less than awesome for their price and for all time. Let us never forget how much Omega --even the modern ones--meant to Chuck Maddox and how seriously he respected the SMP Chrono among others... This message has been edited by Mostel on 2010-10-23 14:19:56

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nothing comes close to the DSSD.You have made a brilliant choice and still came back to it after comparing with others. You have your answer there.Personally, I think the DSSD will be an iconic piece and it actually wears and feels great on the wrist.

I couldn't agree more, I love mine and it is just and ream to wear.

Best regards,

George

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That may mean that you appreciate thck and big diving monsters.

In this case, you may have an eye on the JLC Navy SEALs Alarm, or a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, or the new Audemars Piguet ROO Diver, or the GP Sea Hawk.

Buy the one which will sing loud to you!

Best,

Nicolas

The four watches he mentions are all great watches, which is why I have 2 out of the S'(!lancpain FF and GP Sea Hawk Pro II). Iw ould ad the other twon but I don't think that you can get the JLC Navy Sel Alarm. My AD said that it was all sold out. I will seriously consider the AP in the future.

Best regards,

George

The Deepsea would probably be my first choice - it has it all (quality, bad-assness, pedigree), however, it is a bit heavy (215 gr) and thick (~18mm) for some people so it is not an obvious choice.  My take is once you start using it, all other watches out there fall short, e.g. I sold both my Panerais after starting using the DSSD...

The only real competitors in my book would be the JLC MC Diving Navy Seals Alarm (mouthful, isn't it?) - 44mm, really nice Ti case, which sits a bit high, and about the same coin. The other being the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms - which is a bit large IMO but apparently comfortable.

Let us know how it goes.

Thanks everyone for the input.  I've narrowed my selection down to the following:

Rolex Deepsea Seadweller (http://rolex.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpost&fi=732&pi=2883761&ti=481716&msid=&s=)

Vacheron Constantin overseas dual time (http://www.prestigetime.com/item/Vacheron-Constantin/Overseas-Dual-Time/47450~b01a-9227.html?utm_source=GBase&utm_medium=fpc&utm_campaign=GBase)

JLC Navy SEALs Alarm (http://jlc.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-2/pi-2953571/ti-492066/s-0/)


I added the VC just because the look spoke to me, but I really dont know of VC is well regarded in the 'sports' watch arena like Rolex / JLC are. 

Bottom line, the Rolex / VC are probably more versatile (everyday wear with different attire) vs the JLC, but I think all three are very stunning watches.  Not sure if anyone has an opinion, especially on the VC.

Thanks again

It is James Bond XXIth Century watch!

You can wear it  on a suit, or casual, no problems at all.

Best,

Nicolas

...person would ever be caught wearing a watch with a military insignia on it. I love the results that JLC came up with by cooperating with Navy Seals, however, I would much have preferred that they left the logo and name out of there. It is not "grey man".

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...a true operator would never use that anyhow. Imagine traveling incognito with a cover - who is going to go around with a special forces logo on a watch when you have to go through border control etc. Then again, I doubt a real operator would use anything else than a G-shock, certainly not a $10,000 JLC!

The NSA is not in dotation for the Navy SEALs, but tested by them.

No more, no less.

Best,

Nicolas

...the JLC NSA is therefore the perfect double-bluff for these mysterious operators....

 

...the VC overseas a bit too much bling, and the dial is a bit too small for the case. Just go look at it in person for yourself.

On top of that, you could get BOTH the Deepsea and Navy Seals Alarm for the price of the VC.

At the end of the day, the only thing you can do is to go and try both on at the same time. Contrast and compare. Either you go with the timeless, powerful and utilitarian design of the Deepsea (I did...) or you go with the more modern design of the JLC.

I went with something I know I can live with for the next 20 years...

from what i've seen, the VC can be had for <$10k (which is pretty close to what the DSSD and JLC go for).

last question on the Rolex.  My only hangup on getting the DSSD is I feel I may look like a poser for the brand "rolex" given how diluted it has become in the NYC area.  Do any of you feel the same way, or am I just overly sensitive to the name "rolex"? 

Sure, a bunch of people own a Rolex but in a grander scheme of things, it a very small part of the population and the Deepsea is far from a common model. I've met two other owners in a year of ownership. One was a guy from New York (!) at a conference in DC, the other one was a the Rolex Original Deepsea roadshow with Capt Walsh at the AD (not really surprised to find another owner there...)

Let's face it, if you want originality and pure exclusiveness, Rolex is not the way to go, they make 6-700K watches per year. Then again, if you want a brutally robust and extremely well-made diving watch that you can take to hell and back, and will retain its value pretty better than any other brand out there, the Deepsea is the way to go.

"At the time, the only top-end stainless steel watch was Rolex.
The driver of the car wore a stainless steel Rolex,
and his boss in back wore the same model in gold.
They needed other options. ... "

is a bit heavy and thick and you will be easily hitting it to rvery door frame. The new Rolex Submariner with ceramic bezel is an easier and cheaper option. However, I think that out of the "marine inspired" sport watches the best value is offered by Omega's Aqua Terra with 8500 movement or VC's Overseas. But if money is not an issue, my favorites are AP Royal Oak and PP Nautilus.

Best, Kari

I would just add the FF...

Cheers

Hi Kari, thanks for your input.  Why do you think VC is a good value in particular?  I am new to this watch so am trying to understand it.  I have not seen many people mention it before.  Thanks

Hi,

For about six years I have been wearing side-by-side a PP Nautilus, AP Royal Oak and VC Overseas. In many ways I would put these three watches to the very same cathegory. They are all very well made, very accurate and everything in these watches is very detailed. For some reason the *Overseas does not enjoy the same reputation than Royal Oak or Nautilus but in my opinion the Overseas is by no means a lesser watch than the two others.

The bracelet of Overseas is stunning, I like the 150 meters water resistance, the engraving on the back of the watch is very nice and finally, the dial is nicely made and very detailed. However, in real life you will probably pay much less from the basic version of the Overseas than for AP or PP. I once saw the movement of my Overseas and it was finished in a fantastic way - just like any other modern VC. It is really a nice watch and surprisingly slim taking into account that it is also Antimagnetic. In case Blancpain would made their Fifty Fathoms slims like the Overseas (or Submariner), I would have mentioned earlier also BB Fifty Fathoms.

Best, Kari

are you referencing the VC overseas or the VC overseas dual time?  I tend to prefer the look of the latter...

I have another VC Dual Time but don't find it very readable. I will compare it with some other traveller's watches in near future.

Best, Kari

I love VC, but no--there is no comparison b/t a Rolex sport-watch and a VC sport-watch--the VC is an adventure in beautiful design, and fine detail... living up to VC's legend... but it still has the vaguely delicate 'feel' appropriate to VC as well.... it does not impart the feeling of a rock solid sport-watch that Rolex does. This message has been edited by Mostel on 2010-10-23 14:29:15

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