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After my 1st Panerai

La Bomba aka PAM 64

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After my 1st Panerai

La Bomba aka PAM 64



I ponder what will be my next panerai?

What criteria should I set? What theme should I choose? Slowly the thought process has turn into an everlasting nightmare!

Vintage?




Pre Vendome? Following pictures are taken from fellow purist member.

















Vendome?
























Historic correct model? Modern interpretations? 47 mm? Casing material? Movement? Price? arr...h!

Huge headache!

Any suggestion? A possible cure for a fellow member...

Best
Tyler

  This message has been edited by T.Bean on 2011-08-31 09:00:01 This message has been edited by T.Bean on 2011-08-31 09:07:27

picking up a nice Radiomir as it would complement your La Bomba quite nicely.

Good luck with your decision.

Trust me a radiomir is definitely in my consideration just need to feel which?

A 190? 210? 232? 249? 346?

Maybe go crazy on a 21, 198, 322, 373?

You see my problem?

Regards
Tyler

This message has been edited by Davo on 2011-09-04 22:45:12

that it makes up with the spirit of the 8 day movement.

My mind keeps compare it to the 346.

What's your opinion on 190 vs 346.

Regards
Tyler

without more clues. What's your favourite colour? How much money do you have? How much money do you want (or can) spend, chasing after watches? Do you buy for your...own....gratification or to...show off? The Bomba, only gives away the answer to the last question, since anybody that wants to "show off" a Panerai would never buy that horrible contraption...

Cheers - Sergio

I guess you don't like the bomba:-(

Like you said more alter is need. I'm saving up for a next year purchase so would like to shortlist a few to start the search. My target is to save up to USD20K till April 2012 maybe more:-D

I generally don't show off my watch too much. Most people around me wasn't into watch and I rarely attend big social event. It's more for my own enjoyment.

My difficulties lies in I really like a watch to have certain significant in regard to maybe history for example 1st 47mm (pam 21, pam 127) or maybe 1st modern interpretation of 6152, the preV logo or the 372?

You get what I mean?

Best
Tyler

I don't like La Bomba (I can stomach the automatic movement but the "cyclop"? Yuck!). Matter of fact I don't like any Submersible. I'm a 3646/232/A9 type of chap. Also I'm a serious diver that uses a dive...computer...not Seiko/Citizens/Panerai Submersible's kind of watches...

Now that I have a bit more info, with 20K in the "piggy bank" the Pre-V and Vintage stuff it's way out of your financial capabilities, leaving you with a choice of a modern classic. A large number of LEs would be within your reach. The 372 (not an LE) is going to be an absolute crowd puller and with an enormous Panerai's DNA, how to pass up? A 127 could be a very nice choice too. For some reason, I can't see the...jump....La Bomba/232/190 as a possible one. The 232 would feel way too "dainty" after a brute like PAM 64... Should you decide I'm way wrong in my assumption, a 232/190 type model, wouldn't be a bad choice. Last, I would have a "look" at some T-dials (A1-preA/ A4/A9) etc. A T-dial has a fascination on it's own and once you've got one on the wrist, you're hooked, ask anyone. There could be a couple of destros to be considered 22A/22B or a 26A/26B.

There, my 2cents. For....serious....carateristics/quality/movement/rarity considerations, all of the other partecipants to this forum are way....WAY more qualified to "guide" you than I am....  

Ciao - Sergio

as this watch is normally off the radar screen for people thinking of their 1st Panerai.   Personally I love the watch.  It's the only panerai that I sold and subsequently bought back!    Although there're elements that I don't prefer, such as the cyclop, it's still a very wicked piece and I luv mine!

Now onto your next:   do you really want to blow $20k all onto one watch?    How'bout a 249 then a 372?    From strictly asthetic's perspective, you will have two of the best dial representations from Panerai which really defines the DNA of the brand.    

The other alternatives is to dig a little deeper.   As you already mentioned, a 322, IMHO, is the perfect example of historical lineage w/ fantastic movement finishing.   

As others mentioned, there are really no boundaries but I would be VERY careful in terms of venturing into pre-vendome/vintages.    Given the potential amount involved, it might not be a bad idea to see if your new-found infectuation is here to say or not.   Good luck!  

I thought of the 322 (and I know you love it, I still remember the rugged strap you had on it a while back) but 20K just doesn't do it. He'll have to dig...deeper indeed..

Cheers - Sergio

Well, if one can settle for the black dial, I think the 309 is a bargain, at least on a relative scale.

the ruggedized Ozzie style croc...

Cheers - Sergio

Beside finding one is that will it be too dressy to be a Panerai. I know the watch can be dressy but I think there's a limit to what a 47mm watch can do to be that. I somehow wonder whether it is pushing it too far. How dressy should a military tool watch be?

Regards
Tyler

not how....you...imagine it should be. The chaps that blew up real ships, in a real war, were wearing 3646s not super-mucho-macho-looking-I wanna destroy the world-type of contraptions, with more bells&whistles than a Breiteling. So, if you want a Panerai and want R U G G E D, none come more (really) rugged than a 3646 or 249 that where of the wrists them crazy Italian  X-Mas' Frogmen.... IMHO to be sure....

Cheers - Sergio

 

 

the matte finishing on the titanium case is making the watch less dressy?

Very cool while at the same time very different than what you have.  Historic instead of contemporary, Radiomir instead of Luminor, hand-wound instead of automatic, titanium instead of steel, in-house movement instead of contracted, brown dial instead of black, solid hands instead of skeleton, and on and on.

It would be my vote to give you a really complimentary watch to what you own, instead of one that competes.

This message has been edited by telackey on 2011-09-01 15:09:08

This message has been edited by Davo on 2011-09-02 03:55:35

so you have decided to go deeper in the hole..

I didn't quite get the budget of $20k you stated above... But if it is the budget you'd want to spend on your next, same as Sergio and Jester, Im gonna give you different suggestions, which IMO could fit your criteria of Panerai, knowing that your first is the Bomba...

1. For "modern" , can try to get 249/232 and a 372.. I think theyre the best model that represent the DNA of historical vintage Panerai

2. Try the A series / PreA models... I think within that range you can easily afford any A-series like 1A, 2A or the PVD 4A or 9A (the PVD is much more pricey but still within that range) or maybe a PAM40, if you can find any, or a PreA1..

3. Depending on how you like this model or not, but you could try the Mare Nostrum PreV 301/A or PAM 6/7/8.. Its not a popular model but I think it has a really unique character to it... A beauty of it's own

Anyways, those are just my suggestion for you.. Hopefully it helps my friend..

Cheers,

Sam

The 232 and 249 is on my mind. I just can't make out which? I did consider getting both however I afraid I might lose love for the other if both of them are in my collection.

As for the Mare. Yes! The price of a complete set is haunting though but still better than the preV logo and MM.

About the Pam 40. I don't know I have to see it in metal.

Regardless of my indecision thank you for the clearing some of the fog in my head.

Best
Tyler

Read it in a flesh.. will be out soon

That's why I didn't recommend 217... It is a really nice watch but not all can live with a destro

I've owned both 232 & 249... I think it's hard to choose only one.. I know previously I'd say that I'd pick 249 anytime... But after I bought the 232, I fell in love with it.. It is a very handsome watch... For some reason, I thought I liked it more than the 249.. A while after I sold my 249, I realized that I missed it... It's the perfect pair with the 232... IMHO, you can't just have either one of those... Best option would be to get both

The Mare is another love or hate thing... 9 out of 10 risti that I know, don't like or don't even think of getting a Mare. So, yes, for the popularity it has, it is pricey.. But as compared to other PreVs it is the best priced of all.... Way more affordable than a Logo and miles away far more affordable than the MM..

Anyways, I think you'll be able to see a PAM40 somewhere close to you, I will send you PM...

So, good luck with your decision making

Best,


Sam

The 249 is Captain Kirk.

Of course is easy to fall for Kirk (like the 249).

However when it come to Spock (the 232) you'll love it more the more time you spend with it. Sooner than you know you don't want to part with it.

When they are together they are unbeatable but take Spock out you'll somehow feel there's something missing with just Kirk alone.

Sorry for the trekkie talk it is just something I pick up during my early days and I keep seeing this kind of partner relationship show up in real life as well.


Thanks for the reply, I await you PM

Regards
Tyler

You put it nicely... Great comparison with Kirk and Spock... I totally agree with you mate!

PM Sent!


Sam

If you have illimited funds + ( and the + is veeery important ) a very reliable, well known Guru ( and I see only one here ) with a perfeclty documented watch, so go for the Vintage: There is nothing better, but do never forget that this is a mind field and that you will have to buy the seller, here.

Then, Pre V: The Logo and the Mare, for sure! Both will cost you less than the 202/A MM.

Then, the reasonnable choice, the Pam 372 + The Cali, which both will cost you the same than the Mare Pre V alone.

Here I am with my thoughts.

Best,

Nicolas.

It's truly a fun and wearable watch.

Best,

Horo