Officine Panerai

Why is it that most Panerai collectors prefer those historical pieces ? The Holy Grail watches are for sure the 21 and 203 but since those 2 are out of reach for 99.9% of us. Good we have some other interesting pieces. I think about the 127 and 217, definitely sought after watches. More recent pieces like the 249 and 232 will imo complete the list of sought after historical post Vendôme pieces.

Isn't it strange that complicated panerai's are not that succesfull ?  I have the feeling that most enthusiast will prefer a simple watch like a 111 instead of a GMT, Chrono, Chrono rattrapante...

A few weeks ago I saw the Radiomir foudroyante at a dealer. This watch looked very nice and is limited to 300 pce but for some reason they are NOT sought after (it was in the dealers window for weeks and I think it's still there) even when this great watch is a 300 pce LE.

Other examples are the AMG chronographs, the tantalium pieces, the Arktos,  Regatta, zerograph, the 163 radiomir with it's wonderfull valjoux 234 cal. They are sold out today but you can find them on the secondhand market for cheap prices. Anyway, not way above list   like the 127, 217, 249

For some reason a Panerai needs to be 'simple' while others like Patek only prefer the complicated pieces. Anybody knows why ??

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This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-02-20 14:20:39

In my opinion Panerai is and will be the ultimate "military"  watch and grandfather father of all diver watches

not this fancy complicated / Supercomplicated

watch but ruged big if I may say masculine watch ....

and things that fit PP, AP or VC

sure thing don't fit PAM. This are two worlds sport, utility, work, everyday=PAM

As always when you find your niche stick to it don't try to invent hot water ....

In short all Panerai lovers ask same thing from Panerais and this si sure not moon phase perpetual calendar

whith minute repeater and turbillon ..... if you wanna something more than hour minute and maybe second hand

you are not PAM nut LOL

 

Just my 2 HRK

 

Regards

Just curious.  I had to call about 100 ADs to get one.

-David

where it's trying to climb up the horological ladder by introducing in-house movements and even a tourbillon!  Once Panerai has established itself as a contender in the world of high horology, then we should see more demand for underappreciated pieces such as the Zerograph, PAM163, etc. IMO.

Panerai's initial target group consisted of watch enthusiasts who wanted a rugged sporty masculine watch who really didn't care what was inside the watch IMO.  These people mostly paid attention to the physical appearance of the watch.

Now it's expanding its target group to incorporate more of the watch fanatics who care about what's inside the watch, so I guess I would say these people care more about the personality of the watch (personality as in the movement inside cause I wanted to use the physical/personality comparison for people ).

This transition phase also explains why PuristSPro finally opened up a Panerai forum here for the PuristS community.

Cheers,
Anthony

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-02-20 14:31:27

127/217/232/249/ even the 111, OOO, and all the pre v are historical pieces!!!

Paneristi, I mean the true ones, will always prefer watches that repsect the roots and the philosophy, not to say the History of the brand...

Panerai has never been a manufacture, but a "emboiteur", and a nice one...

They know how to put a movement in a case, and that THAT their history, with special specifications, that made and make these watches very good.

Complications are, for panerai, ...futility...And no sense...Till they will produce a new case to house these complicated movements...

A tourbi in a military watch????

Why not an alcoholic behind a bar??? LOL

Seriously, Historic watches are THE panerais, that'all that matters.

For the complication,s, you have other nice brands like PP, JLC, VC, and so on...

Just my 2 Asi's Sheckels! LOL

Best.

nicolas

reflect the history of the brand. Of course, it's best not to think too hard about that history.......

I have to admit, I love the Panerai historical watches and think they are the best at re-inventing their history. And I think they should keep doing that. But I also applaud Panerai for developing their own movements and new complications. Although I would not be interested in a tourbillon from Panerai or anyone.

Like Ferrari, a company that has some great similarities with Panerai, I think it's just fine to look to the past and keep the Panerai DNA going. But I also think it is smart to look towards the future while keeping that same DNA. A lot of people don't like change and they don't like their favorite brands to change but it has to happen to some extent. Even the Morgan has new engines and other new materials, even though they still look like the old design they've always had.

I believe the perfect example of where Panerai is heading is the PAM 233. It has the 1950 case and sandwich dial, but has a new Panerai in-house movement with GMT and an 8 day reserve. The 8 day reserve is something Panerai used about 40 years ago or so. So it's still a nod to their roots while looking ahead.

I welcome what they have in store.

That's my two-cents.

Scott