Omega

Can anybody help?

...probably eastern European in origin.  The Ukraine is a known hotbed of this kind of horological "activity".

I'm led to believe it's got some Luftwaffe history, as with anything, it takes some research and an open mind to get the 3 sides to the story...Vinny

...Maybe as a pocketwatch, it did.  But since the case (along with any military markings that were on it) has been destroyed, there is no way to prove it.

...be careful wearing it as it probably isn't very watertight - if at all - and has no protection against shocks to the balance wheel.  Further, pocket watches were adjusted to be most accurate in the two positions they most often found themselves in (pendent up, dial up) so don't expect peak accuracy when worn on the wrist.

I'm led to believe that it's got some Luftwaffe history...I'll start researching the ser #

. . . would be put to better use asking for a refund.  

...  the only original part is the movement.  Omega never supplied watches to the German forces,  it is only known of civilian watches that result sold to the Wehrmacht in the Omega ledgers.   But never assigned as such.

At any rate, any sensible proof of military assignment (such as an Omega extract or an incision on the back) seem to be absent, and given the Ukrainian watchmaker provenance - I can just hope that you spent very little.

• Little more research shows the 'arrow' is a German Army Ordinance Mark stamped(marked) on all German Military Property.


• The ser # is linked to a 1912 movement on the Omega DataBase.


• The reason it appears to be a pocket watch(large Crown) is that it was strapped to the thigh of the flier. Automatic movement to limit digital manipulation.


• Hard to assign value to a timepiece but nevertheless, I'm very pleased with my purchase.


• I'll post more info as it becomes available.

How can you say that the broad arrow is a symbol of german government property?   It is the PHEON, hystorically found on all property of BRITISH government.

All miltary watches by the British Misnistry of Defense, down to the clothes of  imprisoned inmates in Her Majesty's prisons bear the Broadarrow symbol.

Your watch is a Ukrainian fake - your "research" cannot change this.

....as pilots generally wore watches on the outside of their flight jackets.  That's why most had solid fixed lug bars. Pilots used long one-piece fabric (burlap or later, nylon) straps strung through the bars.  True pilot's watches used during WWII often had large oversize crowns so they could wind the watches with gloves on.

... you write   Automatic movement to limit digital manipulation.     Can't you see is a manual wind pocket watch movement?   And even if it was one of those ultra rare 19th century pocket-watches with auromatic movement, how would it charge on a leg?  Only if the pilot was dancing while driving the plane.