Omega

i've just seen this total abomination on fleabay. 

the case with integral bracelet, screw in crown and bezel look like they come from the Seamaster F300hz divers model although there are probably other models with the same case. the dial is just a figment of someones imagination.

it would be really sad if someone actually pain money for this believing it to be correct, but we are powerless to do anything about it.

G

This is worse than seeing a cross, and for Vlad, this is the worsrt that can happen to him...



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Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-02-27 13:40:09

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...let's see if the listing gets pulled. Grey area for Ebay because most parts are genuine, albeit cobbled together with a fake dial.

for learning about watches and Omega watches in particular.  With Desmond's fine essays and your invaluable insights in mind, I examine what's for sale and mentally look for tell tale signs which confirm or reject the claims of authenticity - it has been a good way for me but there's still so much to learn!! 

So there can be some good derived from Frankenwatches but I hadn't spotted this one.

Cheers

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

you are on the right path!

It is always good to do the homework first before buying something Franken...

Omega stuff can be a mine field!

kind regards

Erich

This is a 'lovely one' - 18kt solid gold - the seller says that he personally bought this new in 1967 and that he's had it recently serviced by an AD.  But...

note the strategically placed hands in the poor quality photo - no chance of a MOY there

It looks like it's a clipback with no facets on the lugs

with drilled lugs for easy strap changes!

and what's more it is £1600 ($2400) and there's no mention of the movement at all

Cheers

Andrew

 

This message has been edited by aroma on 2012-02-29 03:56:42

... and Ebay has surprisingly heeded many. The real shame with Omega, is that unlike Richemont, who protects their brand like nobody's business on Ebay (I once got an Ebay cease & desist email from Richemont legal in India describing a rectangular Hamilton I was selling as "tank-style"), Omega chooses not to participate in their Verified Rights Owner Program (VeRO). My thinking is that they feel that the more fakes and frankens show up, the more people will be afraid to buy from anyone but an AD.

I think Omega wants people to buy recently released watches instead of vintage...

Also the policy not to sell spare parts for vintage any more goes in the same direction.

That parts sellers like cousins, ofrei etc. are no longer able to obtain parts for vintage omegas to sell to us? 

Hi Mike,
I can not confirm this.
Sorry I have not been precise enough...
My experience concerns watchmakers here in Europe.
They have to be certified and specially trained in Switzerland - then they get parts for repair but only for rather "young" models.
If you have a "real" vintage the watchmaker does not get parts any more... you are forced to send the watch to Bienne.
That is what I have experienced in my region.

kind regards
erich

You many be right though this is where omega is headed - large mark-up on the repair of vintage pieces sent to Bienne or other omega owned service centers by restricting parts distribution.  It may not be official yet but the sense I get is it is getting harder and harder to get spare parts from the usual channels I use.  What used to be in stock is now backordered and takes sometimes months to come.

...with it being more financially rewarding for those who make reproduction parts and sell illegally. I don't understand the logic, myself.

I don't care much about that as I belong to the group who only collect vintage Omegas. I stay strictly with the 30mm manual winding family, the Seamasters and Constellations which I can get  part donors any time from the Bay,

Likewise Hoi.

I've had a 2234.50 GMT bezel on backorder now for 3 weeks. It's not that old of a watch.

...whereas we have to rely more on what the U.S. watchmakers have been stockpiling. These are generally older guys who won't remain in business too much longer. The younger watchmakers tend to work for the brands, so we are losing the independents as the population ages.