As you may or may not know, I have a bit of a penchant for Omega Constellations and particularly gold ones. The latter have become very expensive of late as the value is linked to the (scrap) gold price which is a shame as it makes collecting these beautiful watches a major investment.
Recently, I’ve had my eye on this one which was progressing through the bay of thieves:
It is a ref 2652 with a 12.72million (~1952) cal 352 bumper which is rare enough but it is also 14kt gold and appears to have a lovely original dial. I watched this steadily increasing in price for several days and had in mind a maximum I would pay. - I didn’t bid as I think bidding in all but the last few minutes is a waste of time and just raises the price. However, at the last minute, I pulled out – why? Well, there were just so many things I wasn’t too happy about:
1 the case seemed to have been overpolished – the lugs should have a visible edge and they didn’t
2 the seller didn’t include a movement photo – I ask him to provide one and he said he didn’t have one. I would have thought that for such a rare beast as a cal 352, you’d want to show everything was in order – how can you tell if the movement is genuine without seeing it?
3 The bidding was being led by two individuals – when I looked into their history it appeared that the first one had made 104 bids on 28 items in the last 30 days and had a feedback of 5. The other had made 364 bids on 23 items in the last 30 days and had a feedback of 6. I’m no expert here but I was suspicious of shill bidding.
The watch eventually sold (not to one of the suspicious bidders though) for £1020 (~$1600). OK, on the one hand, I was unhappy to lose such a rare Connie and a gold one at that but on the other hand, I feel glad that I wasn’t sucked into this deal.
I’d love to know your opinions though as I'd like to put my mind at rest one way or the other - did I do the right thing or was I a fool to let this one past?.
Cheers
Andrew
!...but a refusal to show movement or inside caseback pictures is a signal to run away. Someone who won't give basic and necessary information about a watch at that price level, isn't someone I would want to do business with.
The shame is that the watch is probably worth more that what he got, if everything checked out correctly. By being uncooperative, this seller cost himself some money, IMO.
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
as most of my watches have been purchased from there without any problems i would have risked it. if it had not been a 352 then you could have returned it with full money refund because of paypals protection.
it does amaze me how many 'dealers' dont have the facility to open casebacks and always makes me suspicious. i would have thought a caseback tool would have been a minimum requirement for a dealer. i have several of them and would expect every collector to have at least one. however, its not a deal breaker.
Graham
pretty evenly split then - I think that on reflection I did the right thing for me. I wouldn't have liked to risk finding something wrong with it when it arrived in the post. Thanks for the input guys - it's always good to have other people's opinions and thoughts.
Cheers
Andrew
Does anyone know if Constellation Case Ref 2652 has the same size diameter as the Constellation with Case Ref 2648? Do both these models/case Refs have the same dial size?