Audemars Piguet

Hi, I’m seriously 😐 considering this piece but have a couple of concerns. Does anyone know how sharp the case bevel is supposed to be? Compared to my mint 15300st’s very sharp original finish this one seems a bit dull. The lug to strap area particularly. Is this normal? I’ve never seen a new condition piece so I’d like the benefit of a more knowledgeable frame of reference. 
The forged carbon is appealing to me as is the overall look 👀 


I was impressed with the fit for a 44mm





but maybe I’m being a bit optimistic for my 17.4cm wrist 🤔 so would welcome any opinions on the fit

Thanks 🙏 

The carbon is such a unique look that I love. The bezel in particular looks polished, which is surprising considering its carbon and I'd think you wouldn't want to polish it. More specifically, I usually judge whether a bezel has been polished by looking at how much material is left between the bezel screw and the edge of the bezel. The material seems to be minimal here, but sometimes the angle of the photo plays tricks. Do you have a photo from the top down?

and the caseback and pusher frames are titanium. The bezel and screws are virtually flawless, almost new looking.

Thanks! Based on some photos I just saw of the offshores, it seems the bezel is a bit different than the standard royal oak, and perhaps the smaller distance is expected. Great looking watch!

The bezel should be the “satin finish” which looks correct. I personally love this size and it’s very wearable on a smaller wrist. I don’t have a large wrist but love big watches and this one is brilliant. Great choice.

ion. Looks great and the pusher crown assembly works so well design and function wise. I noticed that the watch doesn’t flop or move at all, it wears so naturally.

So I can’t comment on the forged carbon case.

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My thoughts: I did extensive research into a perceived "weakness" in the carbon fiber. AP had all-carbon cases/bezels before they designed this one (Alinghi, etc.) and they put the ceramic bezel on the 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01 to prevent the "chipping" that may happen in carbon fiber. So, the reality is, on the case of this watch, I suppose you run the risk of it "chipping", but it is very uncommon and since the case is not really exposed like the bezel (which is ceramic) and I am not very rough on my watches, it was fine for me. I also believe that some cases are more susceptible to this "flaking" than others, so if the one you are looking at is perfect, it may not really be an issue at all since the watch left the factory more than six years ago. For what it is worth, it is possible to get a new case for this watch for about USD$2,000 if you wanted to go that route.

I have seen pics of the Alinghi model where flaking and chipping seems more common, especially on the bezel. As you point out the case alone is more protected and I believe the resin/compound was really improved for these newer versions. Having the ceramic bezel solves many issues and looks amazing. I wasn't aware case replacement was possible if necessary, and for a reasonable amount given the value of the piece. Good to know and reassuring.
Thanks for the info about the case bevel. It makes sense that the material doesn't lend itself to finishing like AP do exceptionally well with their steel or ceramic models. That was my main concern, how different it might be from original factory finish.
Great photo. The watch wears incredibly for a 44mm, as you say, having an effortless balance and wrist hug with it's light weight. The integration of the pushers and mix of materials is so well done, it's very alluring. Enjoy yours and appreciate the feedback!

In a serial fashion, I have had the first gen Safari, a titanium Schumacher, and the stainless Panda. None of them was much more "durable" than this one -- stainless, especially, is prone to scratches and dings. The Schumacher seemed a bit large for me. This one ticks all the right boxes for a watch that I can shower with.
I have to warn you of one other thing -- some owners of these pieces complained that the titanium "trim" on the pushers fell off -- I looked into this and it seems to be less common than the chipping issue. Again, I felt that if something like this happened, I would have no problem bringing it back to AP for restoration.

Thanks for the info about the titanium, always good to know stuff in advance. 

made of so



called Breitlight.

I'm not as concerned about case failure but it is a consideration. I don't believe either will shatter like ceramic can, something that worries me more than issues with carbon if it becomes compromised. The Breitling is a fun watch and I enjoy the colour schemes!

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because ceramic allows for the usual AP finish standard and ability to match case and bezel it may be more popular. The perpetual black ceramic is a stunning piece. The fact that AP isn't using forged carbon anymore (I believe) may contribute as well.
I've always been intrigued by carbon watches and this is a very attractive watch in person. The mix of materials is really well done. I like the ceramic but it doesn't have that mysterious pull on me, as the carbon does. I'm not losing interest so far, which is always a good sign!

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I still think it's the best looking 44mm ROO because of the contrast between the case and bezel, and the other bits.

which I immediately recognized while trying it on. Fantastic piece!