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well, I like it ....., but a little survey on an other site pointed out that a lot of them didn't like it,  so convince me

now serious, the question was a bit tricky as I wanted to sell my EWC golden "Rossi" for it and that just stirred up things i guess !!

to all PRO GEO DIVER owners >>> would you but it again   ????

***not my pics***

 

…and kind of uncomfortable for daily life, assuming you do not dive for a living

I learned a lot about diving ìts real demands.

 

Best regards,

Marcelo

I tried on and I liked it- the movement is superb, it depends on how it fits on your wrist and which other watches you compare it to
regards

But I like it very much. Thing is, I wouldn't need the depth gauge, but I love the look of it.

Cheers
David

Well, it has all for it!



Playing with the Depthmeter is nother very pleasant yhing, as you will see the dedicaded mechanism in action for your ...biggest pleasure.

Not for all the wrists, but if you have the wrist for it, I would recmommend it!

Best,

Nicolas

It may not be for everyone, but then again, what watch is? If I were looking for a diver watch, this would be one of the top contenders.  I think most people are critical of the size and the fin on the left side of the case, but it seems to me that there are a lot of large diver and non-diver watches out there, and the fin actually makes for a cool and interesting feature with a purpose.

By the way it looks really great in those photos, particularly the wrist shot. 

respo

I think it an AMAZING watch! However, for me the new Navy SEALS Diving GMT Chrono would be more my speed.

-Dean

It's a great watch.  It might be large but it's very light and comfortable.  The rubber strap is very comfortable.  Very accurate!  I would buy it again. 

Best Regards,

 

Steve

 

Is the top dive watch for real divers. Of course thats just MHO. My very first post here in our forum was actually saying how I would love to have this time keeper, but couldnt justify putting my funds towards it at that time. Main reason being that I just dont dive! So i went with a MCDC.
The PG is an awesome piece.
B well,
Matrix.

I think that there is a crowd out there who likes the diving pro geo, so I can only speak of the reasons that make "me" not like it:

ergonomy with the pressure sensor is not comfortable.
the geographic function is not a
the dial is hard to read with the second time zone function that could have been a cut in a window rather than displaying the whole 24h disk.
the depth gauge on the dial is also hard to read.
for any diver who has ever used a depth gauge, they all include a "sliding" hand to display the deepest depth reached during the dive. So does the deep 2 from IWC. No sliding hand means that this "super dive watch" was designed without asking anybody who has done a simple open water certificate about the functions of the watch.

("I can be corrected, if I am wrong) the straps don't come with the classic very useful "diving" extention which allows to quickly "enlarge" the strap to fit correctly on a wetsuit. Check-out the rolex sea dweller deepsea and their amazing new system for that purpose.

In other words this is a watch to dive into parties at St tropez in the south of France in summer and end up thrown in the pool after too much bubbly or to wear for a cocktail on a yacht on some luxuous marina. but not for diving. More possible, a sport looking watch with a distinctive design that one can enjoy wearing for sporty week ends of any kind.

My conclusion:
despite the presence of a  depth gauge, this is not designed as a dive watch. The depth gauge itself is missing the "sliding hand" and the dial is too crowded to be read easily at surface, so even worth under water. Blue color is the first one to fade as you go down into the sea and will be seen as greyish even before you reach 30ft.

technically, it still has amazing features such as the compression keys, the "absorbers for the calibre"
a good weater resistance
light materials for the case
and all the usual care that JLC puts into the finish of all parts.

I am glad that JLC did the MC diving alarm Navy Seals which is an example of a very good dive watch with high readibility of the dial. The alarm function :could be useful under water (although not mandatory for sure). This would be my choice, if a limited serie was not pushing the price out of my reach for the time being.

…if mechanical divers are used in real life by scuba divers, or if they always prefer the digital ones.

 

Marcelo

There was a poster on here that used to use his Submariner (and no dive computer) when diving. Which I think is cool.

But as soon as you get into any tech diving, I am not so sure...

In general, though, my experience is that the primary timer is a dive computer and a watch is back up (on right wrist). I know guys who use mechanical dive watches for this purpose. But mainly quartz stuff like Aqualands which have backup depth guages. I have taken mechanical watches diving, but mainly strapped to my BCD in order to prove that a 30 year old watch can still cope. My back up is a G-shock.

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diver watches as primary tools for diving are as much part of the past than vintage fins or vintage regulators made popular by the cousteau team ( mistral regulators with 1 big hose on each side).

recreational divers that do a bit more dives than a couple of days a year on a nice sandy location all dive with diving computers, which occasionnaly tell the time ( suunto dive computers look a bit lke a seiko watch, are excellent and complete dive computers, have a size that is wearable outside a diving boat).  As divig computer they calculate during the whole dives the amount of nitrogen that is theoritically in your body, where the tables were assuming that you would dive at one depth for the whole dive and would not wonder around at differnet depths.

Therefore wearing a divers watch is more of a thing of the past, which quite a ew like to do. It is a bit like a bycicle. Most of the time, taking a car to go from A to B would be quicker and mre comfortable but a lot of people enjoy a bycicle ride without having a particular destination.

One will say that a divers watch can be used as backup, but if you have made a dive in the morning and did not write down the dive parameters, and you hope to use your dive watch to record dive time and calculate safety stops in the dive of the afternoon, it is simply impossible.

Having said that, what is very useful and not part of dive computer usually is to have a dive watch with a chronograph that is both functional at least til 100m depth and easy to read under water. typically one would want to extend the safety stops by adding one minute here or there for safety reasons. that is handy to time this extra time with a chronograph. However, you will fin that 99% of the chornographs sold amongst all brands, even when they are waterproof to 300m or much more, all contain in their manual a line that says: do not operate the chronograph pushers under water. The reason is simple: dynamic watertighness is much harder to guarantee than static watertighness.

I believe this sentence is also present in the manuals of the master compressor chrongraph (but one can correct me if I am wrong). However, I have been told that the pushers are very water resistant and could be operated without problems between 0 and 100m depth at least. I hve looked in details at the design of the pushers and it looks like the engineers/designers have done their job right and I would trust these pushers anytime.

It is again quite strange that one would sell diver chronograph rated to 1000m with pushers that in fact cannot be operated at a 10th of that depth without letting water in.

The race to the higher depth rating is quite meaningless in most cases. It would make more sense to make good diver chrono fully tested at 200m or 300m, but, this would mean costly engineering as well as fairly complex and expensive testing equipment to tests the chrono function of each watch under pressure, and would probably not appeal as much to the potential buyers as a big bold impressive number on the dial that reads: 1000m/3330ft or 2000m or more.

Thanks Time2tic,

Your point on the cumulative effects of nitrogen are well made as are the points on back-up.

When I go diving I'm usually on holidays, so I try to fit in as much as I can. This means I have to be wary about the dives before I fly out.

As you wrote, just with a trying to calculate and log dives on the boat, as would be the case with just a watch. I don't think so. And it intereferes with the beer drinking time afterwards...

But for dive-a day recreational dives without deco, I think they're workable. Not ideal, of course.

There is a class of diving watches (out there) that have novel accoutrements and the Blancpain people have just released the X fathoms.

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that's the main thing.

I think it looks OK, from most angles anyway.. 8-)

I think the major issues are; a) to mix a depth gauge with GMT / world time function seem absurb to me; b) the watch is big and thick; c) don't like the screw and side bar of the depth gauge attached to the watch case

In fact, it could be my ONLY, all terrain, lifetime tool watch!!!

If... I could afford one

I loved it since the first time I saw it at the Salón Internacional de la Alta Relojería México (High Horlogerie International Saloon Mexico)

5 or 4 years ago, I can't remember.

I love its high end technical look, the color combination, the articulated rubber band wich looks like tank tracks,

the kind of mix of "classic" Master Compressor Memovox and Industrial Tool.

And not even talk about the depth gauge! with its nautilus shaped gear, I could go for years pointing every single detail I like of this nice watch.

As for the size... WTF!!!! I like it FOR ME, not for others, he he!

If you can wear a Panerai, I think you can wear THIS MARVEL.

Enjoy it every day Patrick, I would if I was you, and if you don't want it anymore one day, I can keep it for you

Best regards.

René

I have a crush on this one

Sorry for resurrecting this post, but I couldn't avoid stating how much I like it.

What about the 7924 Nico? Any more pics?

You know I crave for it, he he...

Won't let you go until you post more, eh?

Un abrazo hasta la gélida Paris.

René

 

is my  first guess. Also, the business of the dial. The colors are not ordinary, white or black etc. This is a very specific design for hardcore JLC guys, IMHO.