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What is this? Vacheron Patrimony with Power Reserve and Date?
Hi,
I am new in this forum as I don't own any VC watches.
But today I come across this piece at my local AD.
But today I come across this piece at my local AD.
Wrist shot
It's a very nice piece with a guilloche dial, power reserve indicator and date. The RG case is immaculately polished to perfection and just about as good as anything I have seen. The movement is manual wind and has a sapphire caseback. Strangely, even the sales people don't know much about this watch, only knowing it should be a VC patrimony. As I asked for detailed specs, she is not able to find it either on VC website or the printed catalog.
Can someone help me to identify this? And if you own this piece, what is your user experience? I tried it on and find it beautiful, probably the nicest VC I have seen, but I don't like the caseback. It seems the movement is crammed into a larger case and the movement decoration is one step below PP/AP/Lange despite the Geneva Seal.
Can someone help me to identify this? And if you own this piece, what is your user experience? I tried it on and find it beautiful, probably the nicest VC I have seen, but I don't like the caseback. It seems the movement is crammed into a larger case and the movement decoration is one step below PP/AP/Lange despite the Geneva Seal.
Many thanks in advance.
Rgds
Ben
New model of the small Traditionnelle Power Reserve?
What size, 36mm? Cal. 1400? Definitely not on the VC website, but most resembles the small version Traditionnelle Moon Phase and Power Reserve, less moon phase of course. Nice find!
I can't help identify
but I would concur, it is a stunning piece with the guilloche dial.
The older 47200 had a similar hands positioning
but the only reference I could find with this new dial is from a Russian site (ref 83520)...
Hard to believe we can't find other sources on the net if it is a regular model (except if it was a limited edition somewhere).
I would be cautious without more information.
Hard to believe we can't find other sources on the net if it is a regular model (except if it was a limited edition somewhere).
I would be cautious without more information.
It's legitimate
I saw it both at an Authorized AD and the Vacheron Constantine boutique itself.
New model: VC Traditionelle Power Reserve 83520
Hi Ben
It's the Traditionnelle Power Reserve 83520 using caliber 1420, which I believe is a Federique Piguet base movement.
It's an update of this older version (reference 83060- now discontinued) which uses the same calibre 1420.
Cheers
Robin
It's the Traditionnelle Power Reserve 83520 using caliber 1420, which I believe is a Federique Piguet base movement.
It's an update of this older version (reference 83060- now discontinued) which uses the same calibre 1420.
Cheers
Robin
This is a Ref. 83020-000r-9909
It was introduced at Watches & Wonders 2014 in Hong Kong. This and its diamond bezel version (Ref. 83520-000r-9909) were exclusive to Asia when they were first introduced, though I don't know how long that exclusivity period is.
The reference number should be engraved on the back of the case, so I'm surprised the sales people could not identify it.
Ref. 83020
Ref. 83520
Cal. 1420
Cal. 1420 is based on Cal. 1400 (VC's first, in-house, designed movement of the modern era). I agree that it looks small in a 40mm diameter case.
We can look at specific movements from the different brands, but I do not agree that it is a step below others in terms of movement finishing.
Wow Dan I didn't know this was launched in SIHH 2014
And I got the reference and movement wrong (I got my info from VC Singapore lol)
Thanks for correcting me!
Hope to see you again soon my friend
Cheers
Robin
Thanks for correcting me!
Hope to see you again soon my friend
Cheers
Robin
The movement
Thanks dshao1. When I say it's not so well decorated, I can only said so subjectively after I visually compared it to my current APs ( Diver, Jumbo ) and PP ( 5205R ). The finishing looks very plain and does not "pop". Of course, the standard is Lange which I think many agree has the best movement finishing.
Anyway, after your reply, I should take a closer look again.
Actually, I don't agree
Lange made a deliberate decision to implement certain characteristics in their movement design and finish which gave emphasis to depth and contrast. This creates the visual appeal which admittedly attracts many, but it does not in any manner imply they spend more time or do better work on movement finish. The classic VC finish IMHO is more subtle and sophisticated. To be appreciated, it may require a loupe and an understanding of haute horlogerie finishing.