Do you know reference about it

 By: teacher Sun : April 23rd, 2022-01:30
vintage V&C , caliber 453 , jumbo size 38mm. case maker's mark is hammer no.170 the lugs sharpe were not same as ref4361 and ref 4527

could you share information about this one ? its the first time i saw the model .

All are beautiful...

 By: mdg : April 23rd, 2022-01:43
VC seems to have some of the best lugs around...dials too for that matter...

take the snap on case back off and send photo.-case maker=charles dubois & cie of le locle

 By: golden hands : April 23rd, 2022-11:26
is it ref 4540?

its not mine.

 By: teacher Sun : April 23rd, 2022-13:44
its not ref 4540.

send off to vc for a service and a extract from the archive and ask them for the reference number to go with the movement number

 By: golden hands : April 24th, 2022-18:20

Not a familiar design

 By: Tick Talk : May 2nd, 2022-18:57
V&C's 38mm wrist watch cases of the 50s and 60s were often called "XXL", which is funny as today anything XXL would probably be 48+.   I haven't this design in my photo archive so would exercise caution until you can examine the case markings directly.

thanks for reminding

 By: teacher Sun : May 3rd, 2022-00:44

the case maker's mark looks ok .

there may also be

 By: Tick Talk : May 3rd, 2022-13:42
either 154 or 54 stamped on the case body to confirm the two parts match. The casemaker was registered in 1947 so that establishes the earliest possible date.

Edit: here is an example from the same case maker but for Ref 4539 XXL of 1949.  The numbers match the last 3 digits of the case serial number, confirming the back and body belong together.

so important information

 By: teacher Sun : May 3rd, 2022-21:53
there is not last 3 digits stamped on case body.
stamped 3 digits on case body is a common anti-counterfeiting method during this period?
i saw some models used the method , not only case maker no.170. but i didnot see it on models after 1960s

likely to match parts during production

 By: Tick Talk : May 4th, 2022-03:48

a new unknow ref model

 By: teacher Sun : May 21st, 2022-23:43
XXL, 38mm

but no hallmark on mid-case or back side of lug.

Looks like a case repair

 By: Tick Talk : May 22nd, 2022-17:03
or a manufacturing flaw because one lug appears to be in a different position than the others. As for authenticity, only VC can determine for these watches where we don't have a reference number engraved on the watch itself, but I cannot find a similar model in my catalogs.

Thank you very much

 By: teacher Sun : May 22nd, 2022-19:01