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5960R aging
I was wondering what others thought of how the 5960R with grey dial was aging now that they are about six years old. Last year when Patek switched to a monochrome dial it made me wonder if they felt the two-tone dial was looking dated. If I recall correctly it had mixed reviews some loved while others hated and not many on the fence. The new dials while in keeping with a more classic look also seem to be a way of playing it safe and going back to it's Patek roots in terms of dial design. Will we likely look back at this watch in ten years and say great complication but that dial was Patek's version of the bell bottom, very hot and then not so much? I still find it to be very cool and it has grown on me but then again I'm not looking at it on my wrist every day. Hugh
i wore that watch very often for 2 years...
... its a personal opinion, but i always saw it as the young sister of the 5101R. The dial has a plus that the new one don't have : The bull's eye.
The feel of the watch is very different of the new opaline dial. Feels like another watch. Its a matter of taste. I like the new one a lot, maybe even more.
Its a nice watch, but if i had to make a wild guess, i think that 20 years down the road, its the platinum grey that will be THE 5960.
Could very well be true.
But the 5960r with gray dial looks outstanding and when the monochrome dials came out, I thought to myself...why? Rose with gray dials are very appealing and that piece has a lot more "pop" on the wrist than the latter dials.
"six years old"
Who cares, as long as you like it?
To me the different dials are like different spices and I like to have options like that.
My favorite version (at the moment
) is RG with black dial - even when it doesn´t fit to my lifestyle, it is just beautiful.
We have seen 5070 collections, 5970 collections ... will we see 5960 collections as well?
Oliver
To me the different dials are like different spices and I like to have options like that.
My favorite version (at the moment
) is RG with black dial - even when it doesn´t fit to my lifestyle, it is just beautiful.We have seen 5070 collections, 5970 collections ... will we see 5960 collections as well?
Oliver
i already see it...
... most of the ones i know that own a 5960, have more than 1. Or both platinum or platinum and Rg, or the 3.
I find more confusing and it creates a dilemma when i must choose what to wear, when i was looking at my Rg sitting next to my Platinum, 9 out of 10 times, i took the P to wear. Not fair for the Rg, but there is always 1 shadows the others.
I love the blue, but spices are quite expensive at this level
I believe more in having a variety, that a several metals from same model. Choose well which one you really like, upgrade, swap, do what it takes until you find the right one, the one that is there to stay
Why so serious? Why do you ask?
The 5960R was introduced a few months into 2009. By my count, that was four years ago. Either ways, you said "about six years old" so it could be a miscalculation, but if you're able to see things two years before anyone else sees them, I'd be intrigued.
I'm not sure that I agree with your recollection of how the 5960R was received at launch, but we seem to be at either poor recollection of the launch time anyways.
I have a question for you:
You said...
"The new dials while in keeping with a more classic look also seem to be a way of playing it safe and going back to it's Patek roots in terms of dial design."
Regarding your quote above, what makes you think that they were trying to go back to Patek roots of dial design? What makes you think the two recent dials are more "rooted" than the original silver dial of the 5960R?
To answer your question about what others are thinking about this watch and how it's trending...
My advice to you is this; "Fashions fade, style is eternal" by Yves Saint Laurent. Everyone needs to focus on defining one's own style and not worrying about what others think. I would urge you to make an emotional decision, rather than a calculated one. This is about personal preferences and style. Buy something you love, buy something trendy if you love trendy things, buy something classic if that's who you are.
Who gives a hoot (insert your choice of four letter word) about what others will say ten hooting years from now about bell bottom curves etc. Buy what you love! And if you're true to yourself, you'll continue loving it for decades to come!
An increasing percentage of Patek Philippe owners/prospects defecting/changing from assertive trenders to worried followers. That's something to worry about...
response
You are correct, the 5960R came out in 09 and the 5960P in 06. That must be where I made my miscalculation. No, I can't see things two years before anyone else but should have predicted a condescending response from someone who sleeps, eats and lives for watches.
Maybe old age accounts for my memory loss but didn't some people express criticism of the "bulls eye" dial?
I believe that the monochrome dial is more "rooted" than the original dial, It is more subtle. That opinion is not a knock on the old. I prefer the two tone dials especially the blue and think they give the 5960 more character. It was an observation I was just thinking about on my way back from an AD. The original two tone 5960's in all colors imhop had more personality.
I'm sorry if my post was not well conceived or thought through. I'll give it another try and hopefully not irritate anyone.
I was at my local AD and saw two 5960R's Old dial and the new one side by side. Both watches a beautiful for sure but what struck me was how Patek changed it's personality. It was casual /sporty and now a dress watch. It may be a chrono but I think it looks very dressy. I wonder if but for a few exceptions, that Patek feels their core customer in the 80k list range prefer a more conservative design approach.
You're right about everything...
You're right, people did express criticism about the bullseye dial, but that was more limited to the 5960P when the 5960P came out. It wasn't a big deal of the R.
I wouldn't say I live/eat/breath watches yet. But then again, they say the alcoholic never thinks he's an alcoholic yet.
I always find amazement when someone is criticizing a dial on a watch. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the bullseye dial... What's the basis of complaining. Fickle crowd.
Now, I will complain about this. I actually like the original 5960R dial (silver one) rather than the new dials that were released most recently. I think the original dial was much richer, and I have a strong preference to the original over these two new dials, which I find less interesting.
And as a fickle person, I would complain and lament about the new 5960R because now I can no longer get the old dial.
I have a much stronger preference for the older dial on the 5960R-001 rather than the two new dials on 5960R-010 and 5960R-011.
But my opinion shouldn't matter, it's based on a variety of factors; within the "aesthetics" factor it has a lot to do with the color clothing you wear, the shade of your skin, whether you go out at night or in the day, etc. So when it comes to personal preferences, I really wouldn't pay a lot of attention to my opinion or anyone else's for that matter.
One more observation, the original silver dial may be easier to color coordinate with clothing than the new cream or black dial.