Patek Philippe

feel the same as me?
It looks like a super beautiful ,enlarged version (43mm) of Patek 5970.
Very beautiful, especially the moonphase but a bit too similar to the Patek gene, imho.
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*CL

I just wish the movement were larger so the Day & Month is further away from the center of the dial.

- AT

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2010-01-19 09:50:42

and how nice it will be for the 5970P to look sort of like this.
That moonphase is sublimely super....but then again I still do think it is more Patek than VC.
Maybe most Perp Calendar tends to look somewhat the same.
Just relook at the pix, agree with you totally about the day/month aperture.
Cheers,
CL

On the VC thread under the Basel/SIHH 10 forum.

The only difference, appears that I don't like the moonphase. Why can't they smile??

I would much prefer a "normal" style moonphase.  

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More moody
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In my view it looks right as is ...

I'm vey taken in by the extremely elegant and clean dial layout and I hoe, as I posted in the SIHH thread, that the kugs do not make this wear big.

I am researching the paladium material so any info would be helpful.

this could very well, if I can afford it, be my first and only VC.

I prefer a simple moon to a moon with a "face".

then this watch would be perfect for me, unfortunately this isnt the case .... attractive dial, but i would like to see the real thing first before i can be very sure.

A stunning watch, I like the 'cleaner' look of subdials and
the leap year in aperture.

but agree sub dials can be further apart on dial.

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not even close to the 5970 IMHO.  Clean design, and a step in the right direction for VC.  Some very nice details, but when compared to the 5970, where the whole is for some reason so much greater than the sum of the parts, this one does not impart the same feel for me at all.

 

5970 has a much better balance for me.

No doubt the vacheron is definately a great looking watch. The dial looks to be cleaner but ironically because of the placement of the day date window plus the size of the font the 5970 is easier to read.

I love the moonphase and the colors. The case is large for me but thats a personal touch.

I merged pictures of both side by side for comparison and look forward hearing everyones comments.

 

So theVC doesnt have the 24 hour hand indicator, as for the chronograph, VC only has a 60 seconds, 30 mins register ?? Is that an added value for PP 5970 ?

With two pictures putting next to each other, PP clearly has a much nicer watch case design with more character.  In terms of the color of the dial, the moon phase details, VC seems to have put a touch more effort. 

THe one feature which i wished VC has done, was not to put the two registered so close to each other, partly due to the movement and the space restrictions base on the calibre itself .. my opinion.

Don't both the Patek and VC use the same "Nouvelle Lemania" base movement?  That would explain a lot of the resemblance. 

Hi,

The VC may look less busy, that's not hard with a much larger case and dial.

The moonphase is the big plus of the VC IMO. On all other points I prefer the PP by large!

Cheers

Dje

but I think it is a victim of oversized case, small movement with registers and apertures all squeeze together.
Comparing these 2 pictures, the VC has more life but the 5970P wears alot better and has more balance.
Jmho.
*CL

I liked the VC by itself, but next to the PP, there is no contest.

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To me it just shines....But I guess thats why I own a couple of 5970`s and no VC.....Each to their own though and I can see the attraction but for me that would only be the price not what my eyes see.....
M.

When you say the 5970 looks so much more balanced could you expand on what you see that makes one more balanced than the other?

The major drawback to the vacheron (for my old old eyes) is the size of the font and location of the windows makes it a tad more difficult to read.

john

On the VC the two top sub dials look too small to me compared with the moonphase . I agree with you with the size of the date windows. I findthe dial colour on the 5970 so much nicer  and the case to me just looks more balanced with better looking pushers.....
Only my 2c though.....
Regards
Miles.

I have always purchased watches that appealed to me. For me its one of those moments when you see the watch it either hits you with a "gotta have it" or its ok. When asked what it was specifically I sometimes have a hard time isolating the exact element that made me want it. Its that instant eye to brain connection I guess.

I do have some issues with the vacheron but like the dial and case design. Prefer the case and legibility on the 5970. Both have good aspects to them and both I believe are at the top of the field

John

for me aesthetically, the VC's more elegant (subjective I know) dial and how the moon is applied makes it the winner for me...for aesthetics.

You brought up a good point on the PP actually being more legible despite the much busier dial.

Come on guys......Is there really any  comparison? ??     NO way!!!!!... VC trying to be a Patek  sorry........ Although the VC is a very good looking watch, just not as great looking.
M.

Yes it makes money and many will buy.

but I actually prefer the more elegant, cleaner look of the VC and how VC has done this moonphase.  I may think otherwise when I put it on my wrist but until then, th epics of the new VC looks better to me.  To each his own I guess.  Now if this is priced like the PP, then I would go for the Patek if I could afford it seing how Patek resale holds up so much better.