Patek Philippe

Sorry but this watch is still under embargo, at least until tomorrow Thursday the 5th at midnight Geneva time! As per forum rules we respect embargoes so I can't let it out! Thank you for your understanding



This message has been edited by Dje on 2009-11-04 08:03:26

I honestly think this watch is going to be a big flop for two reasons.

1) The esthetics of the watch are unfeminine.  I showed my wife and she is the one who pointed that out.

2) It's manually wound. Women have long nails. Patek needs to get some women (who have the ability to bring up the obvious) on their design team.

 

Does it mean rather men could wear it? Or is it still "bling"? Would love to see a boring chrono. 35 mm diameter is just excellent size.

Think of a square like the TV watch with a bit of panerai styling and case-edgework (bell shaped  rounding) similar to 5970. Then add diamonds under the glass.  Elton John will love it.

Thanks for the info.

Women in general have little interest in complicated watches.  They like quartz watches because they are no maintenance and they despise a lot of buttons. 

we all know they will use this movement also for men's watches.

It doesn't matter for PP if they will sell 100 or 500 of those watches, the high volume will be for us, men This is just the first watch with this movement.

No message body This message has been edited by dedestexhes on 2009-11-04 07:05:22

Height is 5.35mm and diameter is 29.6mm ..  it has a power reserve of 65hrs (58 hrs when chrono is activated)

..  This embargo talk is plain silly.  This press-release is public now.  Just because our mods haven't gotten it from Patek themselves it shouldn't be supressed.  If we like I can leave and begin posting all future good-stuff (photos, information etc) at Timezone for others and start building their traffic volume and Google relevance at the expense of the Purists.

 

Hi,

I'm sorry but we have rules:

1°) We respect and enforce embargoes! We act such way because it is the base on which we can build trust between brands and this site. If we don't respect embargoes we won't get any infformation anymore!

2°) Press pics and press files must not be posted directly and must be sent to a moderator or the site manager. That's necessary to avoid shilling (I know that's not your case don't worry  ) and that's also a way to avoid to break embargoes!

If you want to try to post your press pics somewhere it's up to you but I don't accept them on my forum until tomorrow at midnight Geneva time and please remember that you should not post them by yourself!

I hope you'll understand why we have to do this way!

Best regards

Dje
This message has been edited by Dje on 2009-11-04 07:55:21

We will have to agree to disagree.  I believe in the Democratization of information.  So while I respect your wish here I will post at Timezone in future.

Wanna see pictures. ADs got an 8 pager with infos on the watch (but without pics), so no motivation to go there now.

nt

Hello all,

We have a policy on information that is under embargo that DJE has already stated.  This policy is NOT flexible nor debatable.  With respect to the manufactures, any information that is under embargo will be deleted immediately.

If other sites wish to not comply with embargo dates due to lack of integrity or common courtesy, then I suggest you post over there. 

-MW



This message has been edited by DRMW on 2009-11-04 11:13:41

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anyone with info on the technical aspects of the movement? I assume this is OK to discuss, even though not pics until tomorrow.

Sounds like this movement is Patek's answer to replacing the Lemania and taking on the Datograph (though it does not make sense to me if so why they would introduce this first in a ladies watch......), and we speculate we will see the same in the 5070/5970 replacements next year.

Does it measure up?

Dear All,

It is improtant for all us to understand why press embargo's exist, and I would like to lend some support for the moderator on this issue.

If you are given information in confidence, and then you break the spirit with which you are bestowed that confidence, you loose your respect and integrity. In future no company will respect you, trust me word soon gets around.

Best regards,

Imran Khan

Once the release is in hand it is fair game.  The company uses the press for an advantage.  They are lucky we're talking about them, nonot a competing brand.  Im disturbed by the lap-dog like subservience.  Where is the courage?

 

At 29.6mm it's even smaller than the Datograph movement. Maybe the finals specs will have more info.

I'm sure Patek will come out with wonderful pieces with this movement, looking forward to the next few years.

I would like to give my support to my friend Jérôme.

He already said it all :

Building trust with a brand like Patek, is a constant job.

When they say that there is an embargo, so there is an embargo.

The question is: what do you prefer ?

A press release and that's all ?

Or an in-depth review with Jérôme's pics two or 3 days after because thanks to this trust, Patek allows him to spend time with them ?

OK, because you seem to be in a hurry, I propose you a pic of the latest Patek I saw.

Sweet isn't it ?

Fr.Xavier

Ultimately Patek Philippe is "using" this forum and Jerome for an advantage.  The power rests with the press.  I am a fairly large publisher and control a media property that reaches 26 million households a month so I know just a little bit about what I am speaking of. Once information is in hand it should be free to be disseminated.  I would personally fire the first editor who witheld a PR for a commercial entity.  Once you do that you lose your press credibility and become just another shill salesman for the brand..  This forum is making a mistake IMO.  I will now stop speaking on this subject, I'm certain to the delight of some here.

I am all in favour of being able to express views and opinions freely. And if the watch pictures are in the public domain, then anyone is free and able to view them easily. The integrity of "not" breaking the embago rests with the moderator and the nature of the site. Jerome is of the view that the embago should not be compromised despote it having been so on other forums. That has to be respected and even if you disagree with it, it is a reflection of the rules for this forum. I can't see the point in criticising Jerome, the rules of this forum or indeed your right to disagree with them. However, the quality of discussion and expertise available on this forum is second to none. While you may disagree with the line taken on this situation, it seems a shame that you feel motivated to move to another forum based solely on that.

Dear nothing but time,

 

I would be interested, as a publisher, in your perspective on this whole press release embargo issue and the motivations of the companies.

 

Obviously companies want to get the message about their product out to the marketplace. I assume this takes time, so information is distributed to various dealers and media (print and on-line) sources some weeks in advance with an embargo placed on the release.

 

Why is this so? Is it that the companies want the maximum exposure from a ‘big bang’ style release? How much do the companies care about early leaks? Are they actually benefiting from such leaks as they may increase the insatiable need for information and feed the hype? Personally I quite like teasers that companies like MB&F release over a period of weeks, but again this is an orchestrated process.

 

I have no direct insight into this as I am just a consumer. On the surface I see the benefit of PPro sticking with the agreed release time, but I would like to understand the pros and cons for both parties.

 

Regards

 

Andrew

The new movement sounds like a true milestone for PPc that will ensure some really awesome and collectable models in the pipeline for the next decade! I, for one, am really excited about the relative small size of the movement since it shows vision at PPc that the "monsterwatch" phenom that we've seen the last couple of years won't last and that we might see some true classic, timeless(pardon the pun) watches.

Ciao, D