Patek Philippe

5070 White gold

5960 pics by WatchFan1 in a prior thread

platinum preferred, though, over the white gold. Still any 5070 over the 5960.

love the movement, the design of the pushers and the pleasure of manual winding.

Bob

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Since you didn't precise if you spoke about the 5070P...LOL

Seriously, I prefer the esthetic of the 5070...It would have been maybe different if the 5960 didn't have this annual calendar.

I'd prefer a 5060 without this calendar which kills the balance of this beautiful dial.

My Strong 2 Euro Cents! LOL

Nicolas

 

I also pictured plat vs plat and voted 5070p ..  I dare say I'd rather own the 5070p than the 5970g ..  And I was recently complaining about the weight of Platinum on the wrist when being active.  Blue dial and strap are mesmorizing on the 5070p ..  its a very aluring piece. I like it's appearance more with each passing day.

I'msuffering, now...While xondering if I'll get one or not! LOL

Best.

Nicolas

 

Thanks for the poll

Ofcourse my choice is the 5070

But if those watches weren't so expensive I would buy both. I really do like the 5960 too (although I would prefer 2 subdials instead of the bulls-eye, but I could get used to it )  but when comparing both I must say the 5070 wins every battle for me. The case, the size, the dial, DEFINITELY the movement, the manual winding, the more classic look, ... If you want a beater a 5960 would probably be the best choice but which nutcase would use such a watch as a beater

But still I would love to own a 5960 one day, If only I had the money

but compared to 5070G or R, I prefer 5960.

This, of course, based solely on pics of 5070P.

5070 is an icon for Patek, based on the extremely rare model of ref 2571. Lemania based manual wound caliber. Near quartz accuracy (+1 s in 5 days for mine). Nothing compares to it. No spin-off references. (i.e., look alike references of 5070). So 5070 IS a 5070.

5960 is a creation. A creation with mesmerising dial-in-dial-in-dial. (I mean literally--I still get confused on how to read that big round thing). Automatic claiber with more parts than a 5004. Spinning off references in the future. (at least 5980).

So, 5070 is a Patek chronograph. Period.

Hope I haven't offended any 5960 fans here.

 

Larry

Folks, just wait under a year until PP discontinues the 5960 and votes will a be changing on this latest survey. 

Nobody knows for sure but believe me, this watch won't be discontinued before 2015. on the contrary, I think a gold 5960 will follow

RE: 'Nobody knows for sure but believe me, this watch won't be discontinued before 2015. on the contrary, I think a gold 5960 will follow"

As you said Bruno, 'nobody knows for sure'.......but since we are in the guessing mode....., ....considering that we already had 3 Baselworld shows since Jan 26th 2006 introduction of 5960P, and some 'other factors' which I don't want o get into..I personally would not be surprised at all if 5960 will be made only in "P'...

Sure,..........this caliber will be the work-horse of their future chronographs, but I think that even Patek themselves hold this watch as even 'more special' than we think right now.



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While reading the entire thread. I was preparing to say the same exact thing.
I am not sure when but I want to see this pole results once it is discontinued.

It is surprising to me how no one mentioned that 5960 is the first automatic chronograph by PP.
It is a First and I think this will take a big place on PP's history as well.

About the "Bull's Eye" dial ; Some of you find it weird or wrong or not beautiful:
July 2006, I stopped by my AD to chit-chat and see in case something new was up.
After few minutes, once I asked if there was anything new. The manager asked someone to bring something.
The guy came back with a sealed 5960.
The manager literally said to me;
"Take this, don't tell anyone you got it here and you will thank me for the rest of your life"
When I looked at it and I said to myself "is that a PP?"

That day I didn't take the 5960. Six months later I was craving for it.
Finally, I got my 5960P two months ago.

Novelty is not always easy to absorb.
It is like; Bringing A New Tradition Into An Old Village.
Give it time the "new tradition" becomes "tradition".

Just like many other things it might grow on you as long as we are open minded.

Kindly,

by the way ........when will be started the delivery of 5070P ?  and for how many years ? 

I also heard about 5960P  end of production....is it real ?  or not ?   who never knows ....

 

regards

Hi,

I hope for her she will be out there much longer too, but there's no beginning of evidence that the 5070 won't still be on the price list in 2015!

Same for the 5960!

Cheers

Dje
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No, she isn't more fascinating Besides you French guys have a girl much better looking  LOL

 

" Melissa Theuriau "

 

And to keep it watch related .. found this wonderfull pics on a Spanish site 'cronomundi'

 

 

 

 

And concerning the production ;

 

This is a mail I sent to PP with a question about availability

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In one of the first magazines from PP I found an article which said that every gold 5070 ( yellow, white, red) would have a 4 year production run, and more or less 250 pce per year
afaik the yellow was available between 1998 and 2002, the white between 2002 and 2006 and the red between 2004 and 2007-2008.

I would like to know if this is also the case for the platinum 5070.
Will it also be a 4 year production run or will it only be available 1 year for celebrating the 10th anniversary ?

I searched for more info on the PP site and all possible watch related websites like the purists, Horomundi, Timezone etc.

Although this info would be very important to me I understand if you would not be able to give this info.

I'm not interested in the number of pieces that will be made, only in the time that it will be available.
Most important, if for some reason I would not have the possibility or opportunity to buy this piece in let's say 2008 or early 2009, will I still get a chance to order and buy one in 2010 or 2011 ?

Thanks in advance and hoping for an answer.

Best regards,
...

 

And this Is the answer I got from PP

 

 

 

She's just got married ... avec Djamel Debouzze !!!

of 5070P  because  Bar Rafaeli is  "wonderful and impossible to have".........

regards

Actually, I don't really think I would buy either one. 

As to the 5070, the dial is a really beautiful classic design... BUT to me personally a 30 minute chronograph is basically useless.  That won't even get me through a typical business meeting and many of my business phone calls go over that.  In short, many, if not most of the things I want to time using a chronograph exceed 30 minutes.  And what I do need on a watch is the date, seeing I use that function more often than anything other than the time of day. 

As to the 5960.... shoot me now but I think the dial is a mess.  Red hands, blue hands, silver hands....an enormous white subdial that makes me cringe... I just do not find the juxtiposition of the date windows up against the big subdial and the case shape to be harmonious at all.  I am impressed by the technical capabilities of the movement, though.   

In short, to me, the answer is neither.

Glenn

 

As a die hard Patek fan, my heart really broke when I saw 5960P. I just don't understand the dial still...

 

Larry

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My vote was the 5960 so looks like I'm in the minority

I would get a 5960 and pass on the 5070 to get a 5970 if money weren't an issue.

Cheers,
Anthony

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My feeling regarding both are that I want both,  in platinum. Each is different and unique.  I only hope that I get to make a choice in the near future. I am waiting for both as well as the 5131.

Paul C.