Bill Sohne
1637
1002 left hand version ? 1010 right ?
Hi Onfivezero...
Your comment "movement of the lefty is a cal. 1002 as opposed to the cal. 1010 or 1012 for the right hand version"
The 1002 was used in the 600m diver.. with the crown opposing the date window ( crown at 9 and date at 3 o'clock position). Due to the fact that a date wheel is asymmetrical ( 31 days) you need a different date wheel depending on the orientation of the crown position. Depending on the case ref the 600m has a date wheel for a crown at 9 and the date window at 3 . The 1002 can use 101x date wheel that has the other orientation crown at 3 and the datewindow at three.
Another point the dial feet on the 1002 and 101x are ( in a straight line in opposite locations so it can be "flipped" without modification.
This means the following for the 600 m watch collector .. there is no uncommon date orientation version , the watch maker just used a std datewheel from a 101x .
This also means your comment "movement of the lefty is a cal. 1002 as opposed to the cal. 1010 or 1012 for the right hand version"
Can I ask where you got the above info ? Maybe I am incorrect but I would like to compare notes to whoever has this opposing view..
Looking forward to seeing your Speedy..
Good Hunting
Bill Sohne
Omega SHOM 200m
This Omega bug has bitten me hard! I posted about a Speedmaster last week and finally pulled the trigger on one - an Apollo XI 20th Anniversary Edition. I am still waiting for it to arrive as I type this but am now looking to get a dive watch. I saw this ...
Service Hydrographique et Océanographique de la Marine..
Their website is in French which I understand some, and it doesn't look like it's available in English. Anyway, I'm wondering if it was manufactured by Omega for SHOM or vice-versa or in conjunction with? Reminds me of Comex and Rolex, and the French Navy...
case size
it is a 43mm x 49mm - not sure if he included the crown in this measurement. movement of the lefty is a cal. 1002 as opposed to the cal. 1010 or 1012 for the right hand version
1002 left hand version ? 1010 right ?
Hi Onfivezero... Your comment "movement of the lefty is a cal. 1002 as opposed to the cal. 1010 or 1012 for the right hand version" The 1002 was used in the 600m diver.. with the crown opposing the date window ( crown at 9 and date at 3 o'clock position)....
movement info.
hi bill, all that movement information was passed on to me by the seller. i know nothing about omega movements as i am new to the brand. should this raise some flags? cheers, jay
No Flags raised ...
Hi jay No flags raised. I just disagree with the seller. Let me ask a question, is the seller stating that he or she is an expert on this watch ? Best Bill
no expert
bill, the seller didn't express to me that he was an omega expert. he seems to carry many vintage obscure brands on his website. i guess he got the information from the person he sourced the watches from? please let me know what questions i should ask him...
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More info
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thanks for the ref. #!
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the price is really all...
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will communicate with seller more....
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i forgot to mention...
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Oh, yes
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