This is the usual approach on iconic models from a brand

It can be tough for someone so used to seeing the original models to accept changes. It is perfectly understandable. However, it doesn't mean the brand cannot mature out of a limited area.

Evolution, improvement and differenciation is not so bad a thing, IMHO of course. But I really don't see why this one is not a watch with Panerai's style and DNA.

This being said, it doesn't mean it is not a nice watch as, in the mean time, for newer owners in the Panerai world coming with a blank page it is natural to be more opene to these novetlies. And even sometimes finding them better.

The newer references (with more element on the dial sometimes and different calibers) still have the brand's DNA (I don't think this could be denied).

It would be sad if the Panerai remained only available in the original layout and not more. Just my opinion of course.

By the way, if there wasn't a developement of the models, maybe Panerai would not be existing anymore...

Everyone will recognize a Panerai in a heart beat: the case, the crownguard, numerals etc... Still a true Panerai but I understand it won't satisfy the elder fans of the brand: there is room for both imho

Cheers Sergio, Mark

This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-10-24 10:49:08

Some shots of a nice Nero Ceramic Luminor (PAM00441)

By: Mark in Paris : October 24th, 2015-08:42

Hi everyone, I don't possess one but I like Panerais very much; great style and spirit imho. I could try the Luminor 1950 3 Days GMT Automatic in black Ceramic earlier this year and didn't post the pictures yet. The way the ceramic case is treated (sandbl...

Forgive me but....

By: sergio : October 24th, 2015-09:55

an automatic + date + gmt watch has NOTHING to do with the...great style and spirit of PANERAI. A solotempo, manually wound model, on the other hand...

I have to agree with you. ;) [nt]

By: amanico : October 24th, 2015-09:56

Both Sergio & Nicolas are still stuck in the past :)

By: AnthonyTsai : October 24th, 2015-20:49

Luckily there are Panerai's available for everyone's tastes! Cheers, Anthony

This is the usual approach on iconic models from a brand

By: Mark in Paris : October 24th, 2015-10:22

I have no problems....

By: sergio : October 24th, 2015-14:49

whatsoever with the..evolution of a brand (Panerai included) and even less problems with Richemont producing whichever model they think are best suited to increase the sales and status of the brand. I don't find the 441 a "not nice watch", on the contrary...

I understand, thanks a lot for sharing you opinion on these matters Sergio.

By: Mark in Paris : October 24th, 2015-14:54

Have a nice Sunday Cheers, Mark

I have always liked the 441.

By: Warrenjared1 : October 24th, 2015-15:18

I have a 505 it\'s not the ceramic but a composite case that\'s brown in color. I got it new in February this year and so far the case has been great no scratches or marks on it. I think over time it may get a nice patina on it but only time will tell. At...

Sorry to burst the bubble but....

By: sergio : October 24th, 2015-16:35

luminova indices do not develop a...patina...over time. Only the radium and Tritium ones do. Unless you're referring to a possible..patina..on the case itself (a la 382). I still think it will never develop (it hasen't so far on my 339) but wish you luck ...

I was talking about the case.

By: Warrenjared1 : October 24th, 2015-16:45

I didn\'t think it would but wasn\'t sure. Thanks for the info cause if the 339 didn\'t after time then I\'m sure the 505 won\'t. I have heard that there were a few problems with the 339 case have you had any issues?

Apart from a couple of cases....

By: sergio : October 24th, 2015-18:10

I read about (and saw pictures of) immediately after the first releases, nothing more. Even then, I saw the pictures BUT, the real reasons for the damage, was NEVER disclosed in full. Personally, I believe they must have been abused beyond logic. Never ha...

A slight patina should develop from normal wear & tear

By: AnthonyTsai : October 24th, 2015-20:51

Most likely just the oils on your skin that will slowly absorb into the composite case ,if you ask me, which could change the look very slightly. Cheers, Anthony

Interesting feedback

By: Mark in Paris : October 25th, 2015-04:40

The weight was also one of my concerns but indeed didn't feel it was heavy when I tried it. Thanks for sharing your opinion and pictures! Cheers, Mark