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May 18, 2011,09:04 AM
 

368 beats them both with ease...

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PAM 368 giving 217, 127 a run for its true value?

 
 By: mattie123 : May 18th, 2011-06:45
I just found put the list price of the PAM 368. It is in every way a stunning watch. I think it beats the 127 & 217 hands down. Even the cheaper price.

Pic of PAM 368

 
 By: mattie123 : May 18th, 2011-06:48
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Pic of 217

 
 By: mattie123 : May 18th, 2011-06:49
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 By: mlpugh : May 18th, 2011-09:04
368 beats them both with ease...

I think you don't understand the 127

 
 By: Asimut : May 18th, 2011-09:25
the 368 and the 217 will never be the Fiddy. It was the first and nothing will take that away. BTW, the 127 retailed for 6700 when I got it. Nico, where is it now? ;-) Asi

the 127 is an amazing piece that set the tone--so much so we commonly refer to 1950 cases

 
 By: playtime : May 18th, 2011-11:32
it was only the Radiomir and the luminor cases before the arrival of the 127. set the tone, so to speak, for me as well--and really made me reconsider the brand. I could never buy it, and probably wouldn't (i've discovered i am a radiomir person)--but it ... 

After all those years, I see that after all you are sentimental ;-)

 
 By: PoyFR : May 19th, 2011-15:55
I agree with, to us the oldies the fiddy is about so much more! But that new one is as close as perfect can be, till the next one of course... where are we now PAM 4?? wOw 14 years already...

there is a difference between...

 
 By: ocwatching : May 18th, 2011-11:04
MSRP, market pricing, and emotional value... The Fiddy is THE FIDDY and its always going to be special. I missed the boat on the 127 and I am really looking at the 375, but the 327 is pulling me as well.

Indeed this is an interesting piece

 
 By: Jester : May 18th, 2011-18:38
Dial w/ the true lineage, proper case size, in house 8 day movements, what's there not to love? True the 127 would always be the first but I see the 368 being the improved 127. Or what the 127 should have been from day 1!

Die 368 is a very different watch from the 127

 
 By: BluNotte : May 18th, 2011-19:12
Ein Guten Tag! It should be compared more with the 217 only, in which case yes i'd say that it does beat it, but to each his own and there are many Ristis out there who believe that the 127 / 217 combo is way better than this year's 375 /368 combo. I for ... 

Money aside

 
 By: Tony A.H : May 18th, 2011-19:50
each has it's Own Beauty & Soul.. then how do you explain the Value of 289 that can be had for a bit less than the 127 or 217 ????!!! as you know , the Difference and Complications between the Unitas and the Inhouse Movement in THESE Watches are HUGE ... 

Just wait till Panerai releases a PAM127 w/ a P.3000 movement :)

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : May 18th, 2011-20:43
That will give the PAM127 a run for its money IMO! Cheers, Anthony

Everyone that has ever read one of my....

 
 By: sergio : May 19th, 2011-02:36
posts on the 127 knows that it's the only piece in my collection, they would have to pry out of my dieing hand. Every other Panerai I own, has a.....price, the Fiddy doesn't. I will bequeth the Fiddy to my favourite nephew (I don't have children of my own... 

I don't agree with you

 
 By: i_am_Sam : May 19th, 2011-01:31
In my opinion, 368 is a much better, improvised version of the 127 or 217, with its titanium case, tobacco dial and the in-house 8 days movement.. But it is the Fiddy that is the first modern Panerai with 47mm Luminor 1950 case, the first modern Panerai w...  

just a small correction, if I may

 
 By: Asimut : May 19th, 2011-02:09
Marina Millitare is post war, and a good thing it is. I agree with your post. Cheers, Asi

Ahh yes...

 
 By: i_am_Sam : May 19th, 2011-02:12
Those with Marina Miltare are after the 50s. Thanks for correcting me Asi Best, Sam

+1 .. Cheers, nt. [nt]

 
 By: colantotte : May 19th, 2011-10:16
No message body

+2 , totally agreed with u Sam. Nothing can replace the

 
 By: John HS : May 19th, 2011-17:16
127 and 217 , they are each on their own class.

368 is not well balanced :-((

 
 By: chronos-lorien : May 19th, 2011-02:54
I considered PAM 368 for purchase BUT... Take a look at a second subdial - it stands too far from the "3" number if compared to historical old models and 127/217. I suspect this is because in-house 8-days movement is too small for 47mm case. Thus, general... 

They are uniquely different, imho..

 
 By: colantotte : May 19th, 2011-10:14
One may need to own them to enjoy as individuals. It is difficult to use any words to describe particularly the 127/217. I love both. I am yet to wear the 368 or see it in person. But, it sounds cool with the in-house movement. Cheers, Ken

Are the 368 already in the stores?

 
 By: mattie123 : May 22nd, 2011-02:56
if not. any idea when?