High complication haute horlogerie - NWA

Mar 24, 2022,07:45 AM
 

Some quick pictures of my new timepiece featuring a regulator dial, GMT, Rattrapante and the patented exo-tourbillon.

Pretty big and three dimensional caliber which is the deepest and nicest I have ever seen, even compared to an ALS Rattrapante. I know that some here have handled it before. Produced on demand with a looong time for production...


Here is the official fact sheet:

Model ExoTourbillon Rattrapante
Ident No. 111823
Movement:
Calibre: MB M16.61
Movement type: Manually wound monopusher split-seconds chronograph with 4-minute ExoTourbillon at 12 o‘clock
Chronograph: Monopusher split-seconds chronograph mechanism with column wheel and horizontal coupling
Indications: Hours and home time at 6 o‘clock - central minutes - seconds at 9 o‘clock - day and night display at 4 o‘clock
Displays (Chronograph): Central seconds and split-seconds, 30-minutes counter at 3 o‘clock
Diameter: 38.40 mm
Height: 12.27 mm
Number of components: 422 components
Number of jewels: 33 jewels (hemispherical, cambered, olive-cut)
Power reserve: Approx. 50 hrs
Balance: Screw balance, Ø 14.5 mm; 59 mg.cm•
Frequency: 18,000 vibrations per hour (2.5 Hz)
Balance spring: With Phillips curve
Plate: Rhodium-plated German silver, circular-grained on both sides, hand-chamfered edges
Bridges: Rhodium-plated German silver, “Côtes de Genève”, recesses circular-grained on both sides, hand-chamfered edges
Going train: Wheels: gold-plated, circular-grained, chamfered, diamond hubs on both sides
Pinions: polished faces and toothing, burnished pivots
Case
Material: 18 K White gold
Sapphire crystal: Cambered sapphire crystal
Case back: Sapphire crystal case back
Crown: Integrated chronograph pusher with Montblanc emblem in mother-of-pearl
Dial: Solid 18 K gold dial with silver-plated grained decoration and Grand Feu enamel rings
Hands: 18 K gold and blued stainless steel, chronograph hands in steel and blued stainless steel
Diameter: 47 mm
Height: 18.20 mm
Water resistant: 3 bar (30 m)
Strap
Material/Colour: Hand-stitched alligator-skin / Black
Clasp/Buckle: Pin buckle in 18 K white gold
Limitation: 18 pieces


















This message has been edited by amanico on 2022-03-24 09:32:55


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Next week ;-)

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-07:53

btw: I learned that here the Rattrapante is integrated into the built of the caliber

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-10:07
with the 1858 it is a module which is "applied" onto the 16.29 chronograph caliber

Great precision.

 
 By: amanico : March 24th, 2022-14:54

Thank you for your kind assessment

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-10:06
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but for sure this is amazing how they fit all those 422 pieces into a case

The most under rated brand due to the name used!

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-09:58
If they had left it as Minerva, it would have been a different story as the watches produced are some of the best finished in the market. Well done on your masterpiece!

This is true but too provoking for most in the market

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-10:18
Flippers and people who want to make a safe purchase investment-wise will always follow the brand. Only few others do not care at all times about the the brand. For me personally I consider my watch assortment as a portfolio: some are doing very good, man... 

Admirable ethos!

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-10:45
I have bought two special Montblanc pieces before (both with MInerva movements). One AD sold me a limited edition of 58 pieces at 75% off list. Amazingly, I still lost another 10% when I sold it as it wore too thick. We should definitely buy watches that ... 

A nice watch for me

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-10:41
but for the used values of a watch, definitely the name.

That is unfortunately how the market is driven

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-14:28
especially as beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,. Every single De Bethune or FP Journe or Nautlilus for example are fetching silly money irrespective of how they look. And it is always admirable if one collects watches without following the hype but t... 

Late to the club ☺️

 
 By: MTR : March 26th, 2022-14:56
Yes, the market might be driven in the way you described. But the big question is: how are you are driven? It’s always your personal decision, your personal watch, your personal wrist. I personally never would buy a watch just because it has the „right“ b... 

I have learned one important lesson in our passion

 
 By: sham1 : March 26th, 2022-15:09
Never say that we will never sell a watch - well at least that applies to me. So when I do buy a watch these days, not only must I love the watch (irrespective of brand) but it also must have a good resale value (not necessarily at a profit) because one t... 

I can completely follow your thoughts

 
 By: MTR : March 26th, 2022-16:17
when you say “not only must I love the watch (irrespective of brand) but it also must have a good resale value (not necessarily at a profit)” My experience is that some watch collectors are so dazzled by the aura of a "valuable" brand that they are inclin... 

I am unable to subscribe to any hype

 
 By: sham1 : March 26th, 2022-16:49
hence I have never owned a sports Rolex, Nautilus or Royal Oak as I am really a dress watch kinda guy. Boring I know but that's me

Ha!

 
 By: MTR : March 27th, 2022-02:52
I just wrote “XY” and you name a few of the usual suspects. 😁 The remaining question for me is: Would the same hype exist around the Nautilus, for example, if it wasn't a Patek but a Montblanc? And no, you are not boring, you seem to be an interesting ind... 

I seriously doubt so!!

 
 By: sham1 : March 27th, 2022-04:12
Notice that the sports models from the 'holy trinity' and Rolex have reached new heights surpassing their own more complicated pieces which to me does not make sense. How can a simple automatic sports watch in steel be more valuable than a perpetual calen... 

Two things

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-10:12
a) the Minerva finish was a lot less in quality than the MB-Minerva finish. I don't think they would have upgraded Minerva without the MB logo b) this price point was something that Minerva could not justify - an upgrade in finish and branding was thought... 

The finishing of the Minerva movements improved

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-10:49
to haute horlogerie levels in 2003 when Emilio Gnutti took over the company. Prior to that, the movements were great but not finished in the same way. Unfortunately in 2006 Emilio was sentenced to jail for six months for insider trading in Italy which pav... 

I had a Small Seconds 38 from the Gnutti era

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-14:22
where MB discovered 38 movements from the era. The finishing was top notch according to a technical expert. ...  

this "discovery" was imho a marketing stint by the former MD

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-15:21
I strongly believe these are calibers from about 2010 (which were not used for some ladies watches at that time as demand for 40,000 Euro Villeret woman pieces was rather low). My wife has got the same caliber and finish in a 2010 watch ;-) I posted that... 

Search for pictures of the Tourbillon bi-cylindrique

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-15:24
there is one version from Gnutti and one from Montblanc; same layout and caliber but different finish. I saw both next to each other in real but was at that time not allowed to take a picture as it was a pre-release show.

Ok let's assume that is the case

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2022-15:48
I still believe that many people will always associate Montblanc with pens and it would have been a lot better if Minerva had retained its name simply because it has a longer history in watchmaking than Montblanc does. History does count for many.

Un.... REAL! WOW!

 
 By: BigFatPauli : March 24th, 2022-13:07

Many thanks :-)

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-15:25

Wow! An incredibly special piece

 
 By: d-star : March 24th, 2022-13:33
Enjoy it to the fullest!

I will - I wear every watch on a regular basis

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-15:25
and this one will get several weeks of wrist time now

For me...

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : March 24th, 2022-17:02
This is an absolute top grail. The finishing is with the best in the world. The bridge for the tourbillon is exquisite. All the complication to boot. I love how both sides of the watch are are a delight to look at. Often for a dial side tourbillon the bac... 

I was concerned about the thickness as well

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-17:19
but surprisingly, it does not wear like 47mm with 18mm height. It has a very compact feeling on my wrist, well balanced and much better shaped for me than the 47mm chronograph. Thank you for your kind words

Thank you!

 
 By: penfriend : March 24th, 2022-19:16

The inhouse balance spring is,, to me at least, a top detail of this watch: that is traditional watchmaking ... not any polishing work of parts.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 24th, 2022-18:57
It is a highly desirable, great colkector's piece. Congrats to such an exceptional watch.

Just checking in

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : March 24th, 2022-23:13
To look at this again 🤪

:-))))

 
 By: penfriend : March 25th, 2022-13:07

Such a marvel.

 
 By: MTR : March 26th, 2022-14:57
This is a breathtaking gem. Many congrats and wear it in best health. 😘

I appreciate it - thank you

 
 By: penfriend : March 26th, 2022-15:19