KenMNYC
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Agreed on many counts. And let's not forget...
...to throw the new 39mm Master Control and 40mm Ultra-Thin Tribute into the mix. While we may see these as a separate genre, the buyer will see them as within the consideration set, generating more confusion. As we know, with confusion comes inaction--no purchase. They are begging the buyer to say "you know, I wish they would have put this movement with this case and this dial--that would be perfect". Choice begets choice.
Could it be that JLC is putting a number of dress watch configurations out there to "see what sticks"? A very expensive market test, and one that is bound to mislead, as all the choices will confound the success of each. At the very least, JLC may want to consider "harmonizing" or sub-grouping their line with more communications directed at the rationale for each.
This aside, I do agree with your point regarding larger "ultra-thin" watches. Seems like the intersection of two trends that don't mix well. No doubt, however, that JLC will work it through until they get it right. Ken in NYC
JLC SIHH 2013: Master Grande Ultra Thin 41 mm.
2008 saw the new Master Ultra Thin " landing " on our wrists. 38 mm, so 4 mm than our beloved MUT, but a superb new case. Here, the MUT 38 mm " 1833 ": In 2009, came the Grande MUT, which I wouldn't call Ultra Thin, by the way. It received a new 40 mm thi...
I love the 39 mm version
and ultra-thin watches in general. But I don't agree with you completely: there are quite many around like the examples I posted yesterday or some others earlier... Just to give a few examples... Anyhow, I must admit that the ones made by JLC are among th...
Same case here, if I may say. ;)
I have the feeling that the Jubilé 39 will make some shadow to its bigger brother, even if they are not in the same price range, which may be important at the moment of the final decision... Best, Kari and thanks for your input. Nicolas.
I really like that they have put the globe back on the case back!
But without seeing any of the two in real - my preference goes to the UT Jubilé. Not I fanatic UT fan, but I like that the trend is going back to thinner/smaller watches that 44-47mm! Best, my friend Blomman
Yes, seeing JLC reworking and developping their new cases is interesting.
And you know how much I love this MUT cases! Thanks, Blomman! Best, Nicolas
+1
... me too, i like the globe 'engraved' on the back, not sticked something with glue... LOLOL stefan
The 'Automatique' text
I know any design cannot please everyone. I feel the presence of the 'Automatique' text actually accentuates the white space at 6' o clock. I don't know if anyone else agree with me. Without 'Automatique' would be better for me...
Thin, Ultra Thin , thinner than thin! Is like whiter than white to me..
There have been many thin mouvements or calibers, Jean Lassale was one, Piaget P9 is another, however JLC has always been there, it was actually Jacques- David Lecoultre who took on the challenge put to him by Edmond Jaeger to produce thin or Ultra thin c...
To me, my friend, this is not really an ultra thin watch.
The MUTs 34, 38 and the latest one, the " Jubilé " are in this UT family. As for the full review of the new Geophysique, I fear you will have to wait and see if JLC decides, one day, to release it! ;) Thanks for your input, my friend. Nicolas
What I meant is that Ultra thin or just thin, to me.....
there is not much difference. I agree though that a very flat watch over 40mm looks weird on the wrist. Also, I am not sure about when the Ultra thin finishes and the just thin start, what are the criteria? As for the Geophysique I am sure that JLC will m...
I see your point. I would reserve the use of UT for watches which really are UT.
The latest Jubilé, for example, is, as well as the MUT 34, and 38. The Reverso 1931 is, also belonging to this category. Of course, there are 3 extra mm, but you have the case and the carriage, and it is difficult to do thinner without risking to touch to...
Thank you Nicolas...but what is the dimension which...
may be called Ultra Thin v just Thin? Is Ultra Thin below 8mm or below 7mm or even more below? and above say 7mm it is not considered UT but just Thin? Just a question? Ah! No worries, the Gods of La Vallee de Joux told me that all is good!:) Cheers. Fran...
I don't mind the larger size but at the same time I can appreciate...
...while smaller is preferred by many others. I do have one question though. Why is it that on most JLC watches I see the French "Automatique" is used but on the latest Master Calendar the Manufacture prefers instead to go with the English "Automatic"? I ...
It is more " chic " in French. ;)
Maybe it is an historical link, to remind the associaton between MM Jaeger and Lecoultre? Best, Nicolas
I prefer the French spelling too. It is very curious why the new Master Calendar has...
...the English spelling. Ruckdee
Agreed on many counts. And let's not forget...
...to throw the new 39mm Master Control and 40mm Ultra-Thin Tribute into the mix. While we may see these as a separate genre, the buyer will see them as within the consideration set, generating more confusion. As we know, with confusion comes inaction--no...
On another side, Ken...
Think about how many Memovoxes JLC released in the Fifties, and even more in the Sixties? There were so many that I am unable to make a properexhaustive review of all of them! Same for the Vintage Reversos, and even worse, the Chronos! It has most always ...
MG UT 41
Hi Nicolas, This is a very nice watch... but not my type of ultra thin. I like this little old look feeling about this watch even if I prefer a modern touch (that I find in the Jubilee) but I remember when I tried a Patrimony Contemporaine for the 1st tim...
The Jubilé is a killer watch, indeed.
Now, there are guys who prefer automatic movements, and bigger watches... It is impossible to get a consensual watch, so why not? Like you, I much prefer the latest MUT 39 Jubilé. Best, and thanks for your input. Nicolas
So beautiful deign but 38 or 39 would be better...
I have a MGUT 40mm and I love it for its minimalist elegance but it would be even better with a diameter of 38. So I feel that 41 mm for the new MGUT are just too many. For dress watches I feel that the ideal is 37-38. 40 mm is perfect for complications.....
Tend to agree with you, Axel.
As for the watch you are mentionning in a 40 mm case, I tjhink you can even remove one millimeter... ;) Best, Nicolas
I like "Automatique" in the French spelling...
better above 6 o'clock for the spatial design of the dial. I wonder if JLC has considered making this 41 MUT "Anti-Magnetic" just as the original 37mm Master Control was. That would be a nice touch, since it isn't using a silicon balance. Overall, I think...
It has to be tried on the wrist, Marcelo.
As it all depends on the wrist in question, too. But I fear you are right. Best, Nicolas
disappointment
first is the solid caseback. it's hard to connect with a watch if you can't see it. second is the automatique. It takes away your power to give it life and now it just does everything itself! but it looks great still.
Actually, I think the brands should opt for the see through case back only
When there is something interesting to see... An unusual Calibre, like the Memo manual Cal 914, or well finished. The movement in the Grande MUT is not in these 2 cases. As for Automatique, I agree that it would have been better without, or stuck under th...