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I agree that, to belong to the Hybris Mechanica Family, a new watch has to
Be rather special, and sophisticated.
On this matter, the Opus 11 doesn't disappoint.
Reading you, I was re thinking about the Tourbillon. Yes, without you would have a big " empty space ".
Good, bad? Still don't know...
One thing they should correct, IMO, is the wording on the dial. Other mentions than JLC are needed, IMO.
As well as the Clé Musicale.
We'll see all that in the details soon, my friend, very soon.
See you!
Nicolas
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JLC Hybris Mechanica 11: Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon.
I can't tell you RIGHT NOW what is the entire 2014 collection, but I am authorized to share with you this new Opus from Jaeger-Lecoultre, The Hybris Mechanica Eleven, which is a totally new watch, gathering some nice qualities: - A Master Ultra Thin case....
This is truly a high impact piece, an Opus as you said.
It is very interesting how JLC manages to squeeze everything into such a discreet form. Big applause to their watchmakers and engineers! Ruckdee
A new Hybris Mechanica is always a major event
Thanks for releasing this novelty, I know how painful for you it must have been to stop torturing us. Well, the least I can say is that, aesthetically, I love it (except one detail I'll mention later). Very classy. I noticed not long ago that I really lik...
As I wrote, I still have many questions to ask.
And many détails to check... We are not Purists for nothing! ;) I will come back to it, don't worry, but I need to see it in the real life first! Thanks for your first impressions, Mark. Best, Nicolas
I would like your opinion
When you get to see the piece, I would value input on the finishing of the movement, especially the tourbillion cage, and compare it to Vacheron's 14 day tourbillion, as well as Vacheron's new ultra thin minute repeater. Lastly, since all of Richemont wil...
Is that all, Joe? :))) I will try to do my best
To compare with what Lange? I am intrigued by the movement of this JLC, and will certainly focus my view on that, and on the sound of the Minute Repeater, as well. Then I would like to see the balance Wheel in its " Flying " conception, without bridge... ...
Movement pictures, please!
This is probably my favorite JLC since years, at least when I look at the press pictures. Really looking forward to see, handle and listen to it - hopefully some time soon. Oliver
Be sure that if I had movement pictures, I would have posted them! ;)
But we'll discover all that in the détails, at the SIHH... Best, Nicolas
Wow. Apparently, it IS POSSIBLE to build complicated wristwatches ...
... with dimensions smaller than an oxen wagon. This is what I call traditional watchmaking mastership, to stuff as much as possible into a case as small as possible - as long as it works flawlessly, that is. I would be thrilled to see it in reality, and ...
Yes, it is! Like you, I am curious to hear how it sounds, though.
As small and thin cases and Minute Repeaters are a real challenge, indeed. Best, Marcus, and thanks for your input! Nicolas
This is the amazing part..
ultra thin..and a great sounding piece? I think only JLC.. looking forward to more.. my first impression was..WOW..they did it again...
Sounding great, that I will soon check. I do hope that it will work, when I see it
In Geneva... Will keep you udapted! Best, Nicolas
Very interesting watch...
but pictures of the watch are, sadly, quite bad 3D+ Photoshop renderings. They don't allow any final technical analysis. Was it done on purpose (no movement, wrong tourbillon)? Anyhow, I am really looking forward seeing the real watch. For the time being ...
Yes, Goldenlutin, I still have to see the watch in the real.
I couldn't, when I was at the Manufactire, in December. But don't worry, you will have lics pictures of it, soon. No, for me, the Tourbillon is not exo, it wouldn't be possible in such a flat Watch. The movement is 4, 8 mm high. I've just shared sme first...
As for the movement, Goldenlutin...
That is maybe why they installed the rotor BEHIND the dial, to gain some precious and extra " dixièmes de millimetres "? Best, Nicolas
About the peripheral automatic winding system...
Hello Nicolas, Thanks for your answer. Basically the interesting/useful thing about a peripheral automatic winding system is that it can be set around the movement, adding virtually no hight to the movement (like the last ultra-thin Breguet tourbillon sho...
THe flying balance is something which intrigued me a lot, too.
I will ask JLC how it can be compatible with shock protection. I had a long conversation with JLC yesterday, but there were so many questions to ask about this watch that we agreed to have another discussion in Geneva, soon. I have the feeling we'll have ...
The open slots in the dial are primarily cosmetic...
To show the peripheral winding rotor in motion from the dial side. The final prototype is amazing, though understandably the sound still has quite a bit of development work ahead. It shows much promise...
Oh ... well, then ...
I hope its acoustic qualities will eventually meet its optical ones. For me, your little AP Sonnerie en passant is still a reference ... Marcus
Totally convinced by the acoustical virtues of the " 11 ".
That was my major question, what I heard enchanted me. I didn't hear the Patek MR in the real, but, except ( maybe ) Patek, the nicest I've heard. Loud, pure, rich, the compromise is impressive. Best, Nicolas
The ref and caliber still have quite a bit of development work ahead of it...
Hi, Marcus, MJLC was kind enough to allow me to spend some quality time with the (mid-development) prototype and hammer and gong demonstrator, knowing that repeaters and striking watches - repeaters, sonneries en passant - are my passion and collection sp...
Aaah, I see you had the privilege to listen to the two watches...
The proto and the demonstrator. ;) Yes, the proto needs some development in terms of finish and acoustics, but it sounds promising. The demonstrator is more spectacular, acoustically. The regulator was quite silencious, I was impressed by that. Even more ...
Thanks! this is what makes repeaters so special - and expensive ...
... since all this work cannot be executed on the CAD machine. You need knowledge, great experience and a passion for the creation of tones - and music, ultimatively. Your description shows that clearly. I hope - and wish - that JLC will take the high roa...
My problem is ...
... that won't be able to have the joy of listening to all these great chiming watches aside. AFAIK, in whole Salzburg there is not one dealer having a wristwatch repeater which I could inspect. Marcus
I am out and can't concentrate much....
I will have to read carefully and get back to you later. I am excited! A lot.... Wow! Mo
Just a quick note.... Probably I would ve preferred
Without tourbillon ..... To make it more pure, but it's a marvel, well done Jlc... Talk later Mo
I agree with you, Mo... Sometimes less is more.
But we are very picky, aren't we? ;) Best, Nicolas
A beauty to be sure
What an absolute stunner of a watch. I actually like seeing the tourbillon, and the size and especially thickness, or thin-ness, of this watch is just perfect. I am not sure I like the window's however, are they a necessity for better sound transduction I...
Well, Mark, I already unveiled three watches.
The Reverso Chocolate, the Duometre UTT in Rose Gold, and now this HM 11... There is much more to come, for sure. As for this one, I want to see it in the flesh, to hear it and to play with it, before being able to write an article on it. For the momentn ...
Make a repeater for everyone!
I agree about the tourbillon - although they're great for a manufacturer's reputation, they're tough on my wallet! What I want is a JLC Master Minute Repeater in stainless. Take out the flying tourbillon, don't worry so much about the thickness, and get m...
Well, they already have one in titanium, without tourbillon.
Master Minute Repeater in Titanium, polished, Grade 5. When you compare the RM from IWC and the RM from JLC, when you hear both of them, you understand why one is more expensive. Therefore you have a 15 Days power reserve and a Torquemeter in the Master ...
This is my type of MR.. Always love to see/ hear it.. BTW..
.. Already read your nice (and 'avant premiere') report twice, enjoyed it a lot, have to re-read with a bit more time, again.. To reflect.. Lots of things to come, it appears (!), Quickly, my Best, and a kind Thank you for this share hs
Thanks for looking, hs. Yes there are more watches to come.
And I am pterry sure two or three of them would be your cup of tea... ;) Best, my friend. Nicolas
I'm impressed !!
I'm impressed by its technical characteristics. Be able to house a minute repeater in a case with such dimensions is amazing (at least for me) ! But i'm not convinced by the openings on the dial. I don't know if seeing the peripheral oscillating weight mo...
We will see all that in the details, don't worry.
There is a lot to say, about the presence and the specificity of the tourbillon, even if, like you, I am not a big fan of Tourbillons on the dial side, with a few exceptions, though. Best and thanks for your answer, Fabio. Nicolas
Beautiful thing….indeed but..
it requires the in-metal test for sure but…. Still not convinced about the showing tourbillon a-la hole in the dial..mmmmm but I suppose its such a special tourbillon that it needs to be showed off! even though It could have been very interesting with a f...
Really like it BUT...
Need to see in metal, would have preferred without tourby or tourby on underside with clean pure dial ;) Awesome piece however... love the MR! ;)
Underside, it would have been thicker...
I am autopsying the Watch, and working on the article, but like you, I need to wait till I see it in the flesh, to be able to end my prose... ;) Much to say! Stay tuned, even if it will take time. I prefer to wanr you. ;) Best, Nicolas
Any pics of the underside?!
Despite my 'picky' comments and observations and I do LOVE this piece on paper and would love to see it in person to conclude... I trust you Amanico and look forward to further reports. The price! :(
A plain dial would have been more my cup of tea, indeed.
But all this is very theoretical, as the retail is a bit above our wallet... 360 000 Euros... ;) Best, Amico. Nicolas
Auch!!!! Wasn't expecting so much...
But thinking about it..... Yes probably... I think I could spend that money in a different direction, but, it's not a proble that I have now!!!!:) Even without tourbillon:) Mo
Great piece
Hi Great piece only wish they wouldn't put the treble cleft and wording on the dial, like VC with their platinum models. Not that its likely to effect me - way way way out of my budget - can still appreciate it though. Cheers JML
The " clé musicale " is excatly where the gong is welded to the sapphire. ;)
We'll come back to the Watch, it is just a question of time. ;) I agree on the wording, though. All the best, and thanks for your input. Nicolas
Can;t wait to see this !!
...And the dial - grainy finishing just adds to the allure!! WIll be anxious to hear the ding's and dong's. Nicolas, many thanks for posting this
Looks to like JLC is going to be...
... the star of the show. The HM11 is practically not possible - but of course Jaeger LeCoultre pulls it off. And with total skill. Sublime. Can't wait until you can tell us how it wears, feels, sounds, smells and tastes. Spectacular piece, me thinks. Tot...
There are truly some serious skills, at JLC.
Not sure this Watch is for me, but I can only admire... Best, my friend. Nicolas
Fantastic surprise,
Nicolas my friend, This is a fantastic surprise you bring us here. I can't wait to see it in eight days. What can I say? I love the watch. Like many wrote I'd love to see the calibre, although I suppose case and calibres in such a conception are created o...
I agree that, to belong to the Hybris Mechanica Family, a new watch has to
Be rather special, and sophisticated. On this matter, the Opus 11 doesn't disappoint. Reading you, I was re thinking about the Tourbillon. Yes, without you would have a big " empty space ". Good, bad? Still don't know... One thing they should correct, IMO...
Agreed
Hi, Indeedif they could avoid to write " repetition minutes" that would be better. See you soon. Dje
Hide the "hole"at 6 o'clock....
And this would be my favourite JLC MM! ;) It looks great, hope the backside is as appealing as the front.... Best Blomman
!i think that if they put the rotor under the dial, it was also to finish the movement.
Can't wait to see it! As for the hole on the dial, at least this is an horological one. ;) But we are not big Tourbllons fans, to tell the truth... Best, my dear friend. Nicolas.
LOL! Not big Tourbllons fans... ;)
But I do look forward to see the backside of this one! :) Best, dear friend Blomman
Me too. I am very curious to see the movement, and to have a look on the
Flying Balance Wheel, to see and understand how it works... Best, Nicolas
Flying balance wheel???
I assume it will be weeks before we get an explanation of how that works A
A nice watch
But a different model. Of all that fascinate me is the small size which means it is complicated and felt that new ideas inside but in my opinion, the former version, the dial is much more appealing cause it is skeleton but this model try to maintain the c...
Thanks for looking, WTA. The MMR and this one are two different watches.
It can seriously be said that this " 11 " is a kind of summit in its kind, when the MMR is already a cool and very interesting Watch which has, in my opinion, the great merit to re interpret, in a modern way, a classi complication. Best, my friend. Nicola...
Still Perplexed!!!
This watch is amazing but I like many need more explanation... I would also love to see how this piece is in the flesh and of course what's underneath? I will await with patience some further explanation and pics! I am sure it will be amazing and on paper...