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Contrary to the classic tourbillon with a construction that tends to obstruct the view of certain components, the Manufacture wished to allow complete visibility of the heart of the watch. Avoiding ordinary solutions, Jaeger-LeCoultre watchmakers have developed and patented an all-new tourbillon. Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch is equipped with a world première in the shape of a flying tourbillon fitted with a flying balance-wheel. This technical feat ensures a full view of both balance-wheel and spring that may both be observed in motion from a radically different perspective. The gaze is captivated by the regular swinging of the balance-wheel, with the balance-spring fixed above it in a highly unusual stage-setting. This expressive and appealing construction also contributes to reducing the overall thickness thanks to the prodigious inventiveness of the master-watchmakers in the Manufacture. In its absolute quest to optimise components, the Manufacture has conceived and developed an automatic winding system that captivates by its remarkable conception and execution. To provide more space and achieve record-breaking ultra-thin dimensions, the winding is handled by a oscillating peripheral weight with a platinum segment visible through narrow openings on the dial. This platinum segment takes advantage of the wearer’s wrist movements to revolve around the dial and wind the mainspring. It is fitted on a ceramic ball bearing mechanism specially developed for this device. It is also extremely effective and able to move freely in either direction. However only clockwise rotation actually winds the calibre. The sculptural purity of the perfectly integrated high-performance oscillating weight becomes an aesthetic element in its own right, thereby further enhancing the graphic power of the watch.
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JLC Hybris Mechanica 11: Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon.
I can't tell you RIGHT NOW what is the entire 2014 collection, but I am authorized to share with you this new Opus from Jaeger-Lecoultre, The Hybris Mechanica Eleven, which is a totally new watch, gathering some nice qualities:
- A Master Ultra Thin case. 41 mm big, 7, 9mm high, these are remarkable volumes, for a Watch housing a complication such as a minute repeater.
Made in 18 Carat extra white gold, it is limited to 75 pieces.
- A combination of a superb complication, the minute repeater, with a delicious sophistication, the flying tourbillon.
- A sophisticated minute repeater, associating the gong welded to the sapphire, which is a well known solution used in the Master Minute Repeater since 2005, and in the Master Grande Tradition Minute Repeater since 2009, with the Trebuchet first seen on the Hybris Mechanica, unveiled in 2009.
This is a watxh I couldn't see in the flesh when I was at the Manufacture, but it " sounds " promising, from the official pictures I've just received, and which I will share with all of you right now:
Of course, I will wait to see it in the real life, at the SIHH, and will come back to it later.
I would just say four things, which immediately came to my mind:
1/ A question: How does it sound, compared to the watches I mentionned above and that we well know, now?
I really cannot wait to test it, and to measure the improvements on this " Eleven ".
2/ An observation, a very personal comment: I would have preferred it WITHOUT Flying Tourbillon. But I have to say that I am not a big fan of Tourbillons, except when they are " gyrotourbilloning ", or skeleted.
3/ This " Eleven " has something I never saw before, a flying balance wheel. I will have to ask what is the purpose of such a " first " ( if this is a first, in the horological world ). Purely aesthetical, or does it have some horological virtues?
4/ A last detail I will have to check: The minute repeater pushbutton: What is the feeling when you use it? How does it look in the real? That is an important part of a minute repeater, whose virtues have to be compared with more conventional solutions, indeed.
Here is the press file I received, which unveils this Watch. I will review it once I see it and fully understand it!
Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon,
a new era in the world of Grand Complications
In 1907, Jaeger-LeCoultre laid the foundations of what was to prove a key element in the identity of its watches. That was the year when the association between Paris-based businessman Edmond Jaeger and Swiss watchmaker Jacques-David LeCoultre gave birth to the world’s thinnest pocket watch featuring a blend of aesthetic refinement and horological sophistication that only a Manufacture uniting the full range of skills under one roof could hope to achieve. Today, Jaeger-LeCoultre confirms its ability to anticipate the future of Fine Watchmaking by unveiling the Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch, the eleventh creation in the Hybris Mechanica collection and the first ultra-thin Grand Complication model.
Eleven, the number standing for inventions and exceeding expectations.
Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch. A new era – that of ultra-thin Grand Complications.
Extreme innovation
Think-tanks composed of insatiable visionaries and tireless developers: such is the very nature of the teams at Manufacture Jaeger-LeCoultre. It enables them, just one year after the introduction of the Master Ultra Thin Jubilee, to present an authentic pioneer in the field of Grand Complications. The newcomer bears a name revealing a set of technical feats that are bound to stimulate the imagination of Fine Watchmaking connoisseurs. And rightly so.
The Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon stems from research on two iconic horological complications. It is indeed the slimmest minute repeater in its category at just 7.9 mm thin.
This watch capitalises on eight separate patents, six of which are entirely new. Its entire development process was governed by two watchwords – ingenuity and performance. Its quintessence lies in a successful bid to achieve extreme slenderness while making no compromises on reliability.
Hybris Mechanica Eleven is equipped with an original tourbillon, a high-performance new balance-spring, a peripheral automatic winding system, a retractable single pushbutton, as well as a new minute repeater equipped with a silent-timelapse reduction system. As the latest addition to an illustrious and fertile saga of Jaeger-LeCoultre striking watches, this model consolidates the brand’s leadership in this field.
Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch resolutely confirms that excellence and surpassing existing limits are second nature to Jaeger-LeCoultre.
A tourbillon born from the demands of ultra-thin horology
These substantial developments required rethinking the regulating organ and developing a new balance-spring specifically hand-crafted in the Complications workshop. All the characteristics of this new tourbillon are geared towards achieving extreme precision, watchmaking’s ultimate goal.
A concentrated blend of culture and expertise, the tourbillon of the Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch vividly epitomises perfect technical mastery. Yet above and beyond the art and science involved in making this outstanding timepiece, the process represents a human adventure strewn with all manner of obstacles that the watchmakers of the Manufacture take pride in overcoming. In each of these prodigious tourbillons, collectors of Jaeger-LeCoultre calibres will discern a combination of unflagging commitment and sheer talent.
A highly demonstrative automatic winding system
A minute repeater that barely skips a beat
Striking watches hold a place of their own within the realm of horology. They embody a highly daunting challenge for watchmakers seeking to achieve the purest sound, the most regular melody, along with unfailing precision and reliability.
Due to their highly complex nature, minute repeater mechanisms represent prestigious watchmaking accomplishments. When in 1870 the Manufacture in the Vallée de Joux decided to create repeater calibres, it revolutionised this age-old art by endowing it with unprecedented precision and reliability thanks to its perfect match between hand and machine. Since then, the Manufacture has created and produced over 200 different calibres equipped with repeater mechanisms, making this one of its favourite themes interpreted through timepieces that have constantly explored the facets of this sophisticated complication. Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch stems from a new line of approach: a minute repeater movement entirely rethought and rebuilt to be ultra-thin.
A minute repeater strikes the hours, quarters and minutes on demand. When there are no quarters to be struck, a lengthy silent timelapse occurs between sounding the hours and the minutes. While there is always such an audible hiatus in the sequence, it is particularly audible when there are no quarters involved. To solve this problem, an innovative system reducing this silent timelapse was developed. It detects the absence of quarters to be struck and thus eliminates the marked pause between striking the hours and minutes. As a result, the appropriate high- and low-pitched notes seamlessly follow their appointed pattern without breaking the tempo.
Supreme expertise dedicated to pure sound
Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch benefits from the developments previously introduced in two exceptional models. To achieve a sound of perfect purity the transmission speed of the gong’s vibrations must be faster amongst elements diffusing the sound wave than in the gong itself. Sapphire is endowed with this very property. In 2005, the master-watchmakers of the Manufacture devised a system in which the crystal gong of the Master Minute Repeater was affixed directly to the sapphire crystal to which it transmitted the vibrations. Four years later, the development of Hybris Mechanica à Grande Sonnerie watch led to the replacement of traditional hammers by trebuchet hammers designed to ensure optimal energy transmission to the gongs. Hybris Mechanica Eleven is equipped with two patented trebuchet hammers. They ensure stronger, cleaner striking on the two crystal gongs fixed to the sapphire crystal. This helps to amplify the sound diffusion. Fine Watchmaking connoisseurs will also take pleasure in the traditional architecture of this minute repeater, as evidenced in features such as the symmetrical position of the two hammers – a tribute to Jaeger-LeCoultre’s historical watches.
Hybris Mechanica Eleven is a testament to the unfailing commitment of the watchmakers at the Manufacture who developed specific instruments such as a sound box to match their exceptionally high standards. Each watchmaker serves as a guarantor of the sound and remains carefully attuned to ensuring the harmonious restitution of the music of time.
A technically accomplished pushbutton
Again as part of an effort to make the watch even slimmer while preserving an extremely pure aesthetic, this minute repeater is activated by a retractable single pushbutton for which the Manufacture has filed a patent. Hybris Mechanica Eleven is equipped with a discreet locking system at 8 o’clock. Actuating it brings out the pushbutton that triggers the minute repeater. Once the minute repeater is activated, the pushbutton returns to its initial recessed position, thus ensuring that nothing disturbs the flowing, elegant appearance of the watch.
The discretion, the user-friendliness and the technical feat represented by this retractable pushbutton are not the only advantages of this ingenious innovation. As opposed to the traditional slides used to activate the minute repeater function and for which the length of travel may vary according to the hour to be struck, this construction ensures a constant 2 mm travel distance that is enough to both wind the barrel and trigger the minute repeater.
Powerful aesthetic appeal pervading every detail
Hybris Mechanica Eleven strikes the perfect balance between historical inspiration and avant-garde technology. It is nurtured by the distinctive elegance of early 20th century pocket-watches, which constituted the last incarnations of a cultural tradition before the wristwatch took over. Each detail of its refined design has its reason for being and serves two purposes in equal measure: establishing an aesthetic identity as well as ensuring the smooth functionality of the mechanism.
The masterful movement with its consistently ultra-thin proportions is accommodated in a new case inspired by a “knife-shaped” 1907 pocket watch. Hybris Mechanica Eleven watch measures a stunning 7.9 mm thin (including the crystal) considering its 41 mm diameter. Of the various precious metals from which it could choose, the Manufacture has opted for white gold because of its excellent acoustic qualities. The bezel, the sides and the tapering lugs are all entirely hand-polished.
The hour-markers, the traditional black transferred minute circle and the silver-toned grained finish are distinctive style nods to Jaeger-LeCoultre’s historical pocket watches. Hybris Mechanica Eleven also features new longer Dauphine-type hands, meticulously crafted with a polished, grained finish accentuating the harmonious overall appeal of the watch. The 6 o’clock opening affords a dramatic view of the new ultra-thin tourbillon, while the small apertures on the outer part the dial provide an ideal ringside seat from which to observe to the rotations of the delicately snailed platinum oscillating weight.
Considerable care has been lavished on the finishing and the sophisticated details of the 4.8 mm thin mechanical automatic movement. The movement blank and the bridges are made of a copper-nickel-zinc Maillechort alloy, a reference to the noble tradition of Jaeger-LeCoultre pocket watches and a metal that acquires a delightful patina with the passing of time.
The haute horlogerie finishes, including Côtes de Genève on certain bridges, entirely hand-crafted and particularly meticulous bevelling featuring interior angles on certain parts, admirably reflect the vision pursued by the Manufacture and its sense of quality taken to extremes.
As a subtle reminder of the musical nature of this timepiece, the exact spot on the crystal where the gong heel is welded to the sapphire crystal is marked by a few musical notes.
Issued in a 75-piece limited edition, Hybris Mechanica Eleven is powered by Jaeger-LeCoultre Calibre 362 and has a 45-hour power reserve. It is crafted in ultra-white 18-carat gold and teamed with a high-end alligator leather strap secured by a white gold pin buckle.
The impressive complexity of Hybris Mechanica Eleven foreshadows the future presentation of the Hybris Artistica collection – of which the mission is to combine the most technical and creative skills of the artisans within a Manufacture housing 180 different forms of know-how.
Jaeger-LeCoultre is more strongly inspired than ever by the intangible heritage of the Maison: the unquenchable thirst to push existing boundaries and to create timepieces in the vanguard of innovation. Driven by such strong convictions, Hybris Mechanica Eleven places Jaeger-LeCoultre firmly at the very pinnacle of ultra-thin horology and Grand Complications.
Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon
Movement:
- Mechanical automatic movement, Jaeger-LeCoultre Calibre 362, crafted, assembled and decorated by hand
- 45-hour power reserve
- 21,600 vibrations per hour
- 471 parts
- 4.8 mm thick
- 33.3 mm in diameter
Dial:
- Silver-toned, grained
- Traditional baton-type (transferred)
Hands:
- Dauphine type
Functions
- Hours, minutes
- Minute repeater equipped with silent-timelapse reduction function
- Flying tourbillon with flying balance-wheel
- Automatic winding via a peripheral oscillating weight
This is truly a high impact piece, an Opus as you said.
It is very interesting how JLC manages to squeeze everything into such a discreet form. Big applause to their watchmakers and engineers!
Ruckdee
Ruckdee
That is a very though excercize of style, indeed. Thanks, Ruckdee, for looking! [nt]
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A new Hybris Mechanica is always a major event
Thanks for releasing this novelty, I know how painful for you it must have been to stop torturing us.
Well, the least I can say is that, aesthetically, I love it (except one detail I'll mention later). Very classy.
I noticed not long ago that I really like white dials with black marking. This one looks great.
But as always, I see that JLC is underrated as they make such breakthroughs with their important watches.
Getting these complications in such a thin case is sick.
I like the auto function (even if in this context it's a weird choice imho), I like the flying Tourbillon (I noted this little JL sign) and the Minute repeater which I hope "sings" great.
I particularly appreciate (at last!) the little button which activates the MR. I always found those big ones on other watches, look much too "heavy". I hate them on every MR (except for the first time the last Patrimony Contemporaine thin which is quite nice).
So this button, which is usually the detail that "kills" the watch for me, is a great improvement.
To end with, the detail I think I won't like is the rotor we see through the windows: I like the windows but I don't like seeing the rotor through them. Furthermore the reotor's decoration seems "basic". I hope this detail will change between the Proto and the final version. Don't know what is your opinion about it.
A great SiHH 2014 novelty for sure.
Thanks a lot for sharing Nicolas.
Cheers, Mark
This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2014-01-10 03:04:18
As I wrote, I still have many questions to ask.
And many détails to check... We are not Purists for nothing! 
I will come back to it, don't worry, but I need to see it in the real life first!
Thanks for your first impressions, Mark.
Best,
Nicolas
I would like your opinion
When you get to see the piece, I would value input on the finishing of the movement, especially the tourbillion cage, and compare it to Vacheron's 14 day tourbillion, as well as Vacheron's new ultra thin minute repeater. Lastly, since all of Richemont will be at SIHH, the finishing as compared to Lange.
Sorry, I know I ask a lot, but I will not be able to go to SIHH, and the chance to see three brands at the same time is not realistic here in the New York area!. Heck, Vacheron said it would be two years or more before the MR would be able to be seen in the boutique.
I really like the retracting button concept. At first blush, the tourbillion hole just looks small. The profile is beautiful. Seeing the rotor in motion from the front will be of interest in the evaluation. Any chance for an iPhone video post? We could get the motion and sound all in one stare!! 
Thanks.
Joe
Is that all, Joe? :))) I will try to do my best
To compare with what Lange?
I am intrigued by the movement of this JLC, and will certainly focus my view on that, and on the sound of the Minute Repeater, as well. Then I would like to see the balance Wheel in its " Flying " conception, without bridge...
I will also try to take a video, even if I am not very confident in the fidelity of the you tube sound.
We'll have a close look on all that, don't worry!
All the best, Joe, and thanks for your input.
Nicolas.
Movement pictures, please!
This is probably my favorite JLC since years, at least when I look at the press pictures.
Really looking forward to see, handle and listen to it - hopefully some time soon.
Oliver
Really looking forward to see, handle and listen to it - hopefully some time soon.
Oliver
Be sure that if I had movement pictures, I would have posted them! ;)
But we'll discover all that in the détails, at the SIHH...
Best,
Nicolas
Wow. Apparently, it IS POSSIBLE to build complicated wristwatches ...
... with dimensions smaller than an oxen wagon. This is what I call traditional watchmaking mastership, to stuff as much as possible into a case as small as possible - as long as it works flawlessly, that is.
I would be thrilled to see it in reality, and especially to hear it. That size is not a guarantee for a good repeater sound, has been proven by many repeaters launched during the last decade. Some of the best sounding repeaters I heard were small and thin. The open slots in the dial suggest a sophisticated, sound-oriented design.
Marcus
I would be thrilled to see it in reality, and especially to hear it. That size is not a guarantee for a good repeater sound, has been proven by many repeaters launched during the last decade. Some of the best sounding repeaters I heard were small and thin. The open slots in the dial suggest a sophisticated, sound-oriented design.
Marcus
Yes, it is! Like you, I am curious to hear how it sounds, though.
As small and thin cases and Minute Repeaters are a real challenge, indeed.
Best, Marcus, and thanks for your input!
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-01-10 03:36:11This is the amazing part..
ultra thin..and a great sounding piece?
I think only JLC..
looking forward to more..
my first impression was..WOW..they did it again...
Sounding great, that I will soon check. I do hope that it will work, when I see it
In Geneva...
Will keep you udapted!
Best,
Nicolas
Very interesting watch...
but pictures of the watch are, sadly, quite bad 3D+ Photoshop renderings. They don't allow any final technical analysis. Was it done on purpose (no movement, wrong tourbillon)?
Anyhow, I am really looking forward seeing the real watch. For the time being the tourbillon looks like an "exo-tourbillon" like Minerva/Montblanc did in the past (which means that the balance wheel is out of the actual tourbillon cage). Do you know something more about this aspect Nicolas? I would love to know
What also surprises me is how a 4.9 (or was it 4.5?) mm movement fits into a 7.9 case... You would more expect a case around 9+ mm.
Thanks
Goldenlutin
Yes, Goldenlutin, I still have to see the watch in the real.
I couldn't, when I was at the Manufactire, in December. But don't worry, you will have lics pictures of it, soon.
No, for me, the Tourbillon is not exo, it wouldn't be possible in such a flat Watch.
The movement is 4, 8 mm high.
I've just shared sme first impressions, be sure that the Watch will be autopsied later.
Best, and happy to see you on the JLC forum, too!
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-01-10 23:26:30As for the movement, Goldenlutin...
That is maybe why they installed the rotor BEHIND the dial, to gain some precious and extra " dixièmes de millimetres "?
Best,
Nicolas
About the peripheral automatic winding system...
Hello Nicolas,
Thanks for your answer. Basically the interesting/useful thing about a peripheral automatic winding system is that it can be set around the movement, adding virtually no hight to the movement (like the last ultra-thin Breguet tourbillon shows). As it is around the movement, the downside is that it increases the diameter, what you can see in the 33mm diameter here (unthinkable 15 years ago). AP also uses a similar system to make its RO automatic tourbillon chronograph (I am not talking here about all the movements with peripheral rotor but only the ones totally around the exterior of the movement) . Regarding the fact that it is visible dial side, I think is was a purely aesthetic decision but I might be wrong. AP's one is totally hidden by the case/dial for instance, making the automatic winding "magic".
Still, the most intriguing thing IMHO is really the flying balance. This seems technically almost impossible (due to shock protection [where is the upper Incabloc?, there must be none], fixing the hairspring, frictions, resistance to lateral shocks, etc.). It will be very spectacular in any case but hopefully also reliable. You could have achieved something visually similar using a sapphire top bridges.
Best,
Goldenlutin
THe flying balance is something which intrigued me a lot, too.
I will ask JLC how it can be compatible with shock protection.
I had a long conversation with JLC yesterday, but there were so many questions to ask about this watch that we agreed to have another discussion in Geneva, soon.
I have the feeling we'll have fun, and a lot of passionate discussions!
Best,
Nicolas
The open slots in the dial are primarily cosmetic...
To show the peripheral winding rotor in motion from the dial side.
The final prototype is amazing, though understandably the sound still has quite a bit of development work ahead. It shows much promise...
Oh ... well, then ...
I hope its acoustic qualities will eventually meet its optical ones. For me, your little AP Sonnerie en passant is still a reference ...
Marcus
Marcus
Totally convinced by the acoustical virtues of the " 11 ".
That was my major question, what I heard enchanted me. I didn't hear the Patek MR in the real, but, except ( maybe ) Patek, the nicest I've heard. Loud, pure, rich, the compromise is impressive.
Best,
Nicolas
The ref and caliber still have quite a bit of development work ahead of it...
Hi, Marcus,
MJLC was kind enough to allow me to spend some quality time with the (mid-development) prototype and hammer and gong demonstrator, knowing that repeaters and striking watches - repeaters, sonneries en passant - are my passion and collection specialization.
I typically do not comment on prototypes, knowing that comments, good or bad, can be misleading and in some cases unfair (if ultimately inaccurate in a positive way, to the consumer - ie prototype good, final product bad; and if ultimately inaccurate in a negative way, to the manufacturer - ie, prototype bad, final product good) but in this case, because there seems to be such great specific interest and because I can fairly and reasonably comment without risking too much inconsistency with final production (I hope!) I will offer a few thoughts.
The prototype shows great potential - the strike, though still needing much development and tuning, showed its potential with a pitch, timbre, and tone that were nice, especially considering it is a prototype. Volume and regulator noise were both good to very good, with promises that they would be excellent to great once it reaches production.
The idea of the trebuchet hammer - double articulation in the strike action of the hammer - is an intriguing one that has already been tried in another (yet still to reach "full production") model, which I have not yet heard. (sonnerie Grande Complication) and if executed right, could be a revelation. At least it is a great engineering concept. I did remind those in the room that ideal volume vs tone quality are not linear or even always linearly correlated with speed or strength of strike, ie the harder, the more forceful the hammer strike, the louder the tone without sacrifice in tone quality ... this is NOT true.
Also, the idea of the hammer and square gongs having "fuller contact" on impact vs point contact on a round gong (ie, point contact on a radius, or tangent point) - the purity of tone and its "tail" is as much a function of the RECOIL of the hammer from the gong after the strike so the gong can develop fully its vibrations, hence its "music"; as it is a function of the initial strike itself (force, contact area) Afterall, the "music" is from the gong vibrating AFTER the strike, and not from the strike itself, per se. So hopefully (and I'm sure they will) MJLC conceptualizers and constructors will take these points into consideration as development continues.
Cheers,
TM
Aaah, I see you had the privilege to listen to the two watches...
The proto and the demonstrator.
Yes, the proto needs some development in terms of finish and acoustics, but it sounds promising.
The demonstrator is more spectacular, acoustically.
The regulator was quite silencious, I was impressed by that. Even more than on my MMR.
As for the sound, its purity and richness are quite remarkable.
One thing I had in mind with the pusher and the locker, Thomas... One thing you could tell me, for sure: Didn't AP do something quite similar, in one of their round Watch? A Watch I had the pleasure to see when you wre in Paris?
Best,
Nicolas
Thanks! this is what makes repeaters so special - and expensive ...
... since all this work cannot be executed on the CAD machine. You need knowledge, great experience and a passion for the creation of tones - and music, ultimatively. Your description shows that clearly.
I hope - and wish - that JLC will take the high road towards this kind of perfection, and not succumb to the temptation of selling a half-finished product, from the acoustic point of view.
Regards,
Marcus
I hope - and wish - that JLC will take the high road towards this kind of perfection, and not succumb to the temptation of selling a half-finished product, from the acoustic point of view.
Regards,
Marcus
They cannot take the half way. They will be judged through the HM 11. [nt]
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My problem is ...
... that won't be able to have the joy of listening to all these great chiming watches aside. AFAIK, in whole Salzburg there is not one dealer having a wristwatch repeater which I could inspect.
Marcus
Marcus
I am out and can't concentrate much....
I will have to read carefully and get back to you later.
I am excited! A lot.... Wow!
Mo
Just a quick note.... Probably I would ve preferred
Without tourbillon ..... To make it more pure, but it's a marvel, well done Jlc...
Talk later
Mo
I agree with you, Mo... Sometimes less is more.
But we are very picky, aren't we?
Best,
Nicolas