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As a diver I have been thinking the whole day how to comment.
Before seeing the watches in metal next Monday, I will say nothing definite. But I would summarize my feelings as follows:
Positive things are the history of the watch, the design, size and the similarity with the original watch.
Negative is that according to the currents standards, this watch is by no means a diving watch with its 100 m depth rating and non-rotating bezel. Additionally, the price is on the high side - same as two Rolex diving watches. Finally, the strap looks like similar rubbish as TTP strap.
I would really consider this watch and probably buy both versions if a steel bracelet of the original design would be available. But now: it is not a diving watch, it is not an excact re-production, it is expensive... I really do not know.
It is a nice watch. But I still have my Polarises and these watches have a depth rating enough for squba diving plus a rotating bezel. To decide about DSA is much more difficult than to decide about Reverso Tribute to 1931.
Best, Kari
Jaeger- Lecoultre Tribute To Deep Sea Alarm Full hands on Review. SIHH 2011..
Yes... You read it well, the Deep Sea Alarm is back, and I had the immense privilege to see it in the flesh, to be authorized to take some pictures, in exclusivity for Watchprosite, and to share them with you before the Embargo is over on the press file! ...
Tribute To Deep Sea Alarm: The Press File.
Memovox Tribute to Deep Sea : a re-edition in tribute to the legend of diver’s watches There are some watches that leave an indelible trace on our collective memory because they have written a page in history. The Memovox Deep Sea, the first diver’s watch...
Nicolas, you had me with the TTR...
...I recently passed on buying one of three vintage JLCs that I thought I must have when I read your posting on the TT Reverso. I was sure I was going to own that watch in 2011. Now, I'm not too sure! As a proud owner of the TTP'68, which to me is the epi...
The Ying to the Polaris Yang...
That is a fantastic way to describe the TT DSA, Neil. Couldn't put it better. The Polaris and the Deep Sea Alarm don't play, in my opinion, in the same category, if we speak about functionality and aesthetics. They are not competitors, they complement eac...
My JLC Ad had ...
Thank You Nicolas for this awesome detailed introduction. My JLC AD here in Italy has my reservation on his desk with the number "1". Have a nice day my friend Marco
Alarm based on minutes or hours
Is the alarm based on the minute hand position, which is useful for diving, or based on the hour hand position?
I think the question was....
...which hand triggers the alarm? On the normal Memovox's I believe it is the hour hand, but on a diving watch it should be the minute hand.... It would be much easier and more accurate to adjust the dive time (normally around 45-60 minutes) if it was act...
Yes
Yes, thats exactly what I meant. I'll assume that the minute hand will trigger the alarm.
Not sure I understood the question, as the Alarm is activated by the upper crown ...
Not the minute or hour hand. When the minute hands has reached the alarm time, it rings. An example: You start your dive at 16.00. You want to start your ascent at 16.30 and want to be warned. You set your Alarm to 16.30 with the upper crown. Et voilà. Be...
Hm, I still don't get it...
I believe that the original question in this thread was whether the alarm is triggered once every hour (i.e. when the minute hand reaches the alarm triangle as opposed to the hour hand in all memovoxes including the original DSA). This would IMO (as I als...
These protos of the DSA weren't working, BUT, as on the TTP
The Hour hand, when moved backwards above the alarm triangle, carries it away. But I still don't see the " link " with the setting of the diving time... Best, Borat. This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-01-13 11:49:46
He he, we're speaking in different directions...
I am not talking about how to set the alarm - but rather what releases it. On all other memovoxes (to my knowledge), the alarm triangle is set to point at 3 o'clock if you want the alarm to go off a 3 o'clock (i.e. when the hour hand is aligned with the a...
I think you have probably answerd the original question...
...as I am 99% sure that this watch has the same alarm function as the other JLC alarm watches, like the Polaris (alarm activated by the hour hand). Unfortunately this function is not useful for diving, as you can't set the dive time accurately on them......
Stunning! :)
Wow, Nicolas! What a great post and fantastic pair of watches! Love the DSA! Luckily we didn’t bet – I would have lost… 2 more on the MUST HAVE list! Will return tonight and have a closer look. Best, my friend and again thank you for a fantastic report! B...
Sweet as candy! :)
My friend, I have said it before and I say it again: You are the KING of passionate posts! After viewing this pair… All I can say is WOW! I love them! But, if I should try to find any thing “wrong” with them it would be the numeral font. Personally I pref...
Actually the bezel on the proto is correct
Hi Blomman Actually, the bezel which is on the prototypes is very correct, as both 'square' and 'round' numbers have existed (2 variations of the bezel on the original DSA) Most of the (few) original DSA that we see on the internet and that have surfaced ...
Agreed on the " not squared " numbers, Clavi.
Less than the " square " one, but they indeed existed. Also agreed on the grey redone bezels. Thanks for your input, and opinion on these TT DSAs. Best, Nicolas.
Hi Clavi
Thank you very much for the information. This is the first time I see a confirmed original bezel inlay with round numbers. I was under the impression that all original bezel was with square numbers. This is one of the great things with this forum – you le...
Correct insert on your EU
I am glad to see that you have the original insert for your European version, and in rather good condition (it looks original, maybe a little enhanced to correct scratches, but original indeed) If you are wearing it regularly, given its fragileness, I can...
Yes, a more correct inlay would be great!
But I like the grey much more then the one I had on the US version... Thank you for the additional info! The number 2, 5 and 8 also looks rounder in this pic. Best Blomman This message has been edited by blomman on 2011-01-15 15:46:56
Bezel material...
Hello guys, i'm a proud owner of an european deepsea. I'm curious t know the material of the insert bezel is made ? Do guys have an idea? Ceramic, aluminium? And also the best way to have it cleanned.... And maybe took of some scratches... Regards
Scratch resistance insert
I tought that it was made of ceramic.... My mistake. Is this material scratch resistant? Do you have an idea if its possible to take of some minor scratches? And also if it get scratched, what should happen during the watches life how much a new bezel + i...
Not really scratch resistant.
Same material than on the Rolex Subs. It is not possible to take the scratches off, even minor. But youy can always have your insert changed for a new one, by JLC You made a confusion with ceramic, because at the beginning, ithe idea was to use a bakelite...
Price
Perfect nicolas, thanks for your answer. I believe that i also made a mistake because most of the watches nowadays has the insert in ceramic, as my jlc navyseals chrono. But it is just the good and old aluminium hehehe.... Do you have an idea of how much ...
Sorry, but I don' t have these infos, nor any idea about that. But...
Any JLC AD will find it for you. Good luck. Best, Nicolas
Bezel insert material...jlc deepsea alarm
Hello guys, i'm a proud owner of an european deepsea. I'm curious t know the material of the insert bezel is made ? Do guys have an idea? Ceramic, aluminium? And also the best way to have it cleanned.... And maybe took of some scratches... Regards
Bezel insert material...jlc deepsea
Hello guys, i'm a proud owner of an european deepsea. I'm curious t know the material of the insert bezel is made ? Do guys have an idea? Ceramic, aluminium? And also the best way to have it cleanned.... And maybe took of some scratches... Regards
Just fantastic
Nicolas, Thank you for yet another great post and report. I have been lurking around this great forum for quite some time but never thanked you yet so I thought it was about time. Yesterday, I was blown away by the Tribute to 1931, but this watch will mak...
Perfect for me.
That watch is stunning. Just simple, just gorgeous. I've just place my order to my dealer. I will be perfect beside my Polaris 1968. I have allways hesitated to buy the 1965 Polaris but now I am sure it was great to leave a place for this one wich is some...
Welcome to the DSA Club, Marc.
Happy to know that you loved it ( which one, by the way? ) so much that you already ordered it. It seems that many of us will get at least one. Now, the question is: Will it become another Community Watch, such as the TTP? Best, Marc. Nicolas.
All the best for your exams, K.G and welcome here, by the way.
It is really great to see you coming out from the wood for this occasion. Welcome here. Best, Nicolas.
Good Job JLC
Revisiting his roots is nice indeed. Another large LE as classical treatment from JLC. Fantastic post Nicolas A real pleasure +++++ Best Patrickh
Great post! Thanks Nicholas.
I think JLC has another hit on their hands. First the Rverso 1931, now the Deep Sea Alarm...I wonder what else they have in store for SIHH.
I'm curious to see the rest of the novelties, Rovermark.
But what a stunning start! Best and thanks for your input. Nicolas.
Wow...a pair of breathtaking beauties.
And the first modern LeCoultre! Wonderfully sized. I like that it is thinner than the TTP too. Thanks for the informative post, really impossible to chose one over the other. Best, Goh
Yes, the Lecoultre dial is a great thing, Goh.
I love a lot the fact that JLC accepted to sign just LeCoultre on the dial. It would have been historically weird to see JLC on the dial. An excellent point for JLC, and even a double one, with the name Reverso signed on the TT 1931! Best, Nicolas.
Unbelievable….
This is precisely what I’ve been dreaming about . That European version is absolutely to die for…and the US version is not too shabby either. I believe I commented on one of your post recently regarding JLC releasing a version of the DSA, cant believe its...
So, Drew, you woke up?
Or you're still dreaming about these DSAs? Now you understand the meaning of my past teasers? It is a superb watch, nicely done, which will bring a lot of pleasure to their owners, my friend. It is worth some sacrifices, in my opinion. Like every dream......
I'm surprised by their decision to came out with not one but both...
...version of the watch. They are both very beautiful and as you said all imperfections are maintained so they can be faithful to the original. To tell you the truth, in some of your comparison shots, I had to look hard for discoloration and scratches to ...
That is an interesting point, Ruckdee.
If JLC opted for only one DSA, can you imagine how deceived the fans of the other versions would be? I am firmly convinced that the decision to release both of them is THE good one. This is a happy day, for a lot of us, obviously. Best, Nicolas.
Oh I agree with you totally that this is the best way to go.
Everybody is happy. And to the delight of true collectors and the dismay of finicky buyers like myself, the crystal is not sapphire. Let's say I am happy for those who value faithfulness to the original. I really am. But sadly plexy is not for me. That is...
Yes. I have a strict no plexy policy because...
...my OCD condition would compel me to look at the scratches on the plexy and not the beauty under and around it. It happened to me before with the Speedmaster which I later sold for a sapphire version. Anyway, it's a personal problem and not any manufact...
Bow down to JLC for their suprb reissues.
Now I'll call my AD . I guess the 6610 will have to wait a little longer. Best Tyler
The 6610 can wait, my friend...
You will always find one, one day or another, but the TT DSA may well go fast, if I judge from the first enthusiastic reactions... Best, Nicolas.
Thank you very much Nicolas
It is a measure of your value to us and JLC that JLC would allow you exclusively to take pictures and to share them with us before the embargo is over. It is also a measure of your dedication that we receive a thorough report and not just a press file to ...
Thanks for your very kind words, Richard.
It is also the counterpart to fully respect the embargoes...Sometimes the brands share with you some cool secrets. Best, and thanks for your reaction, Richard. Nicolas.
Great stuff
The wait is worth it. Very comprehensive report, not your typical press release. Best, Horo
Beautiful!...
What to say, just beautiful watches. Very well done from JLC, and congratulations for your contribution as I know you were involved in the project. Obviously a great dal of thinking and research has been put into this project which to me explains that the...
Many points raised here, Matt.
First of all, and I didn't write it in my post, the TT DSA is the result of a collaboration between friends of the brand and the brand, like it was the case for the TTP. It is a team work, which caused a lot of very interesting brainstormings. The size wa...
How come
it doesn't surprise me.... just kidding......... every year great news from JLC... they will spoil us... maybe I have wild imagination but I feel someones influence in Tributes last couple of years ;0) Sincerely Damjan
Not a too wild imagination, my friend. :)))
BUT that doesn't explain all, as JLC has a genuine willing to revisit their very rich Past. For our greatest pleasure. Best, Damjan. Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-01-13 13:33:41
I love them both
Can't wait to see them in the flesh. I am wearing my TT Polaris 68 to celbrate the event. Best regards, George
Well, you saw them, and now?
Another TT DSA Victim? Was great to see you there. Best, Nicolas.
Totally victimized
Thank god I was aways on a business trip for two days, it kept my mind off the issue. I am definitly in love with the two watches and of course had to order the two of them on the spot. Now the long waite starts. Best regards, George
Worth the wait
Nicolas, to answer your last question : it was definitely worth the wait, almost 50 years after the production of the last DSA. Lovely watches, highly attractive, accurate reedition with the fine-grained texture of the dial and the LeCoultre production et...
The TTP was announced in January 2008 ...
So, 3 years ago, and it was priced 10 500 Euros ( TTP 68 ), 11 500 Euros ( TTP 65 Paris Boutique ) and 25 000 Euros ( TTP 65 Platinum ). Like you, I would have preferred to see its price a bit lower, but we have to keep in mind: 1/ That a lot of elements ...
Yes....and no.
Another great report, Nico. No wonder you were so excited. The design is intriguing and eccentric - alarms to control your dive yet no functional bezel? really stupid. But stupid in an endearing way (now that it's the 21st Century ) It's a marvellously fa...
I get what you mean, Partybreaker. :)
But did you think about which looks like a kind of ... paradox? Who knows the original? A very few of the people! They all heard about the Polaris, but what about the original DSA? I think that the Tribute pays a vibrant hommage to the original, puts the ...
Another great project from JLC - rebirth of DSA
Thanks for great report Nicolas. This already turns up the heat for all of us before SIHH.
Brilliant Nicolas
A great post on both the watches. Do you think they might offer a bracelet to go with it as well
The bracelet is not programmed, as far as I know.
But will ask next week. God may give me an answer? Best and thanks, Eitan. Nicolas.
It WAS worth the wait.
My favourite JLC vintage... it is Christmas again Nicolas, this was truly a brilliant post. The background context of the competitors, the history of the deep sea alarm and the incredible details you provided between the originals and the tributes told a ...
It was a lot of pleasure to prepare and write this post, emcquillan.
Any of them will give you a lot of pleasure, my friend. So, don't worry, you can't go wrong here. Best, and thanks for your nice words. Nicolas.
Definitely worth the wait
It is awesome that there will be both US and Euro versions. I know which one I prefer in this case, which surprises me a little as I usually like less writing on a dial. But the US version is THE ONE for me. Wow, it really looks like MJLC did a great job ...
I'm with you on this one, Robert -- USA all the way!
Really, what an incredible homage to the original. JLC gets a ton of credit for resisting the urge to go overboard with "improvements" here. That said, I'll have to sit this one out, since there are a couple of other pieces ahead of the DSA in the queue. ...
What's next?
They are fantastic - makes it hard to choose. We then just have to wait impatiently for what might be coming in relation to the reverso and the jubilee. Soren
Well, let's first enjoy the TT DSA, then we'll see. :)
What is coming in relation to the Reverso and the Jubilé? You already have the answer: The TT 1931, which was covered by Ming and Ed. We'll come back to it in a week. Best, Nicolas.
TT DSA's - the diving godesses to come on land..
Ohhhhh, yes!! - Absolutely worth the wait: --- Thank you so much again for efforts and the share ! - so much hope,so much desire ( luckily the reasonable LE- size of the (JLC TT DSA) Europe might enhance the chance to get one Thus, all to be said: much jo...
Well, hs...
As for the ref numbers, the press file only gives one, I will have the other soon, but I guess that the name of the watch is enbough to place an orfer safely. Yes, you piut it very nicely, it is all about joy, happyness and excitation! Best, my friend. Ni...
All for GO - merci !!
Thank you so much !! - it is all engrammed into my desire pattern already ! - Big YEESS, Sir ! - So I'll start for me with the TT DSA 59 -US ( Americaine ?) - is that the name, one can safely place an order, with the JLC boutique until the Ref Nr gets kno...
Congrats, HS!
This is great news! Happy to know that one of these mermaids will find a nice home. As for the TT DSA Europe, the problem is that once you get the US, you will start to think to get the European sister... Believe me, I know very well this phenomenon. The ...
One more last thing ..
- be allowed: Thanks again for these nice words, your assistance and your ever encouraging attitude, for the expert & novice alike, when sharing passion such as for these 'goddesses' . Yes, it will be a joy, once one of these mermaids of the depth will se...
" Tribute to the Group "...
I LOVE THAT CONCEPT! With the Ying Yang above expressed by Neil, this is my favourite expression! This is exactly that. How to go from a fine watch to a GREAT watch, this is the way to follow: the Tribute to the group, to THIS amazing group of friends. Wh...
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