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I worked on one
Hi Nick,
I worked on a watch with this regulating system some time ago and it was not fun. I believe it was a Mido that I worked on and I recall the regulating system being called Incastar. It was odd enough to me that I took a couple of pictures:
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The major problem I had with it was that the balance has not meantime screws (or other adjustable masses). This means that you cannot regulate it without moving the rollers, which means that the simplest regulation also involves re-centering the hairspring and adjusting the beat. I don't remember any problems with keeping the hairspring flat, but surely the roller system would lend itself to those problems as well. Also, the rollers have tendency to "peen" the hairspring a little bit as they squeeze it and roll it back and forth, making it a bit of a mushy mess at the point of "attachment". I would have to say I am not a fan.
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I worked on one
Hi Nick, I worked on a watch with this regulating system some time ago and it was not fun. I believe it was a Mido that I worked on and I recall the regulating system being called Incastar. It was odd enough to me that I took a couple of pictures: From Wa...
Interesting...
I can imagine that with a decent beat control mechanism and meantime screws it could have potential. nick