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Triple complication: VC or PP?
Here are two Minute Repeater Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar timepieces:
- Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Ref. 80172/000R-9300 - 44 x 13.54 mm pink gold case - Manual-winding caliber 2755 QP (40 jewels - 18,000 semi-oscillations/hour - 2.5 Hz)
- Patek Philippe Grand Complication Ref. 5316/50P-001 - 40.2 x 13.3 mm platinum case - Manual-winding caliber R TO 27 PS QR (28 jewels - 21,600 semi-oscillations/hour - 3 Hz)
Which one is your favorite?
I prefer rear tourbillons, but the transparent aesthetic of the PP doesn't appeal to me and I prefer the movement architecture of the VC: so, the VC is my personal favorite here, despite the large case size.
Best, Emmanuel
credit: @horology_ancienne (Patek Philippe) & @smooth_bezel + @antiquorum (Vacheron Constantin)
To hear the Patek Philippe chiming, check @horology_ancienne's post: click here.
To hear the Vacheron Constantin chiming, see the video below.
Vacheron Constantin, ref.80172/000R-9300 by Antiquorum
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Triple complication: VC or PP?
Here are two Minute Repeater Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar timepieces: Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Ref. 80172/000R-9300 - 44 x 13.54 mm pink gold case - Manual-winding caliber 2755 QP ( 40 jewels - 18,000 semi-oscillations/hour - 2.5 Hz) Patek Phil...
Neither of the two. The Vacheron dial is just awkward, the Patek let’s me completely cold
If you’re looking into this price range, for the mere mortal, everything needs to be perfect! Dirk
I feel the same way concerning the Patek and concerning the mandatory perfection at such a price range.
Concerning the dial of the VC, I feel differently: I find it interesting and quite nice. Best, Emmanuel
I understand how you feel.
The dial of the VC doesn't look fussy to me, though. Best, Emmanuel
Tough, quattro.
I'd have to hear them in person, but I suspect the PP feels better on the wrist and sounds better. Like the look of the VC, but I suspect it'd be the PP. Dreamy repeaters...
I like the size of the PP better,
as well as the back tourbillon. It also probably sounds better. But the look is absolutely not for me. Even with its drawbacks the VC speaks to me more… 🤷🏽♂️ Best, Emmanuel
I'm mostly with you.
If I had the money, I'd perhaps hunt a vintage repeater. Clean, time only. Maybe a VC with teardrop lugs?
In this price range I would opt for the
Blancpain Grande Double Sonnerie. (Photo credits: SJX) And if I had to choose between Patek and VC I would go for the VC. Not for the sound but somehow the dial and case of the VC speak more to me. ...
Being a Grande Double Sonnerie, the BP is clearly one step beyond.
So, it's definitely a very strong contender. But the openwork aesthetic isn't for me. I would still pick the VC, personally... Best, Emmanuel
I understand how you feel about the dial
of the VC, even if I like it personally more than the smoked sapphire of the PP. I imagine that the PP must sound very good. Best, Emmanuel
I would have to go with neither here.
I have never liked these transparent dials like the Patek here. I don’t like seeing the day/months through the dial when they’re not in the appropriate display window. Lange does these dials and some people go crazy about them. I don’t understand it. I wo...
I’m completely with you concerning
these smoked sapphire dials: not at all for me either. The dial of the VC is definitely special, but I don’t dislike it personally. Best, Emmanuel
In an either/or scenario, it's the Vacheron Constantin for me, no contest,
but smitten, no, smitten I am not. Cheers Marc
