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As of 2012...
To your point, Chronoswiss still uses a number of Historic calibers:
Marvin 700 based (manual wind):
- C.111 (used in the Sirius)
Enicar 165 based (automatic):
- C.122 (used in Regulateur)
- C.126 (w/Dubois Depraz in Repetition a Quarts)
- C.127 (w/Dubois Depraz in Perpetual Calendar)
- C.126 (used in Sirius Day Date)
But as you suggested, they are finite in their supply. The majority of the watches are all ETA (or equivalent) bases of a 6498 (manual) or 2000, 2892-A2 (automatic) or 7750 (chronograph). they have been for a number of years. Some movements are skeletonized at AROLA And some movements like the C.351 (large date) and C.831 (retrograde chronograph) are from Le Joux Perret.
Small independents like Chronoswiss. making <5,000 watches a year in the <$10,000 category are not left with many choices beyond Sellita, Soprod and Valanvron for ETA replacement calibers. You need significant capital to develop a caliber of their own. I am not sure about how small independents like them will survive moving forward. I can't imagine what will happen when or if Swatchgroup cuts competitors off from Nivarox-FAR assortments.
Makes me a bit sad...
New Arrival: Chronoswiss Timemaster Automatic CH 2855LU
Hi, This is one of the "new" Chronoswiss models presented last year at Baselworld 2012. I believe that this is one of the first to arrive to the United States. It is a Timemaster Automatic (Ref. CH 2855 lu). It is a design update on the earlier, more trad...
A marvellous read!...
Thank you very much for such a thorough and informative overview. It was especially interesting for this novice to learn the meaning of the term ' etablisseur '. All credit to Herr Lang: Chronoswiss keeps going, and keeps improvising, where many others fa...
Etablisseur
I find it interesting how the industry has spent the last two decades diminishing the public presence of the traditional method of manufacturing watches. In-house vertical manufacture has been touted as superior by the industry and many collectors. I have...
Correction: ITs a Sellita SW300
Apologies for my error. Upon closer inspection it is indeed a top grade Sellita SW300: [/URL] So it appears Swatchgroup have now cut-off companies with a 30-year relationship of buying movements from ETA. I wonder who they will continue to supply? ...
If I recall correctly, Chronoswiss use many non-ETA movements
At least the regulator and a number of others are based on reworked old movements. I know the skeleton watches like my Opus are 7750-based.
Marvin, Enicar, La Joux Perret, ETA and Sellita
Chronoswiss does use a variety of calibers. Today, the Sirius line uses 1950s Marvin 700 bases (Chronoswiss C.111). My Regulateur 24 uses a similar caliber reconfigured for a regulateur format (C.112). [URL=] [/URL] Here is a Caliber C.112 to compare: [UR...
like that. i worry that they may be moving away from Herr Langs love of vintage movements
when they were established they used vintage movements in their watches which was Herr Langs great love. if i remember correctly the Delphis had an Enicar movement amd Chronoswiss had a huge quantity of movements stored ready for use. i appreciate that th...
As of 2012...
To your point, Chronoswiss still uses a number of Historic calibers: Marvin 700 based (manual wind): - C.111 (used in the Sirius) Enicar 165 based (automatic): - C.122 (used in Regulateur) - C.126 (w/Dubois Depraz in Repetition a Quarts) - C.127 ( w/Duboi...
thanls for that update and...
thanls for that update and i fully agree with you. somehow i dont think swatch will fully stop supply, they may stop to their large competitors, but i like small brands and i like eta movements so i hope they keep the supply chain open. last resort and qu...
Swiss Made
They haven't fully stopped supply but the squeeze transition is on and each year as the amount of product they allocate to non-Swatchgroup companies decreases this will only get worse and companies will unfortunately fail. Swatchgroup has also greatly inc...
Beautiful watch and great write-up. I had one of the original ...............
styled Timemasters and really loved it. I think they did an excellent job on this update. Mel
theres a very big difference...
theres a very big difference between the old and new. i wonder what happened to the dead second movement they were supposed to be developing? wasnt there a big presentation a few years ago, i think i read it here, but the movement has materialised as far ...
Not a happy story
Karsten Fraessdorf was the designer of the "Sauterelle" movement that was shown by Chronoswiss at Baselworld 2009. The details of what happened are best not discussed publicly. If you would like to know more, feel free to PM me.
pm coming....
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