very good post

Mar 06, 2016,12:44 PM
 

agreeing on most points, I feel some are missing...

- the watch business aside from a very few industrial brands and some individual watchmakers is basically a fraud-system overcharging you by telling lies as real stories and relating to every story possible they can come up with.

- manufacture manufacturers using their customers as alpha-testers, every brand does it, none produces a series of watches to have them alpha-tested harder then life for a year and their support system before they're sold to customers. Basically, the first non-prototype #4, 5, or 6 is sold to customers who pay as much as a car's worth for it, well the car actually has been developed for 10-15 years and tested around the globe, here and there even get called back for remaining bugs.

- what remains is to list the few brands of value and service, every quarter, every information about manufacture movements to understand how well they've been tested, complaints (every single one known), basically providing a positive filter of trustable brands, showing their problems, so they have a chance to fix them, or get noticed as just another ignorant crappy brand.

- It'd be cool, too to have a section where anybody can list his prefered local watchmaker and explain why...

thanks.
Best regards,
Carlos

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After 7000 mouse clicks over the "Insert" button ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-05:49
Purists, Took some time to hit the 7000 mark and after seven years (I’m a member of this community since Jun 27, 2008) I could learn a lot, make great friends and experience lots of changes over my watch hobby. A set of major learning points in no particu...  

Very interesting post, Nilo.

 
 By: amanico : December 8th, 2015-06:21
First of all, congratulations on your 7000th! Back to your post, each of your subtitles are worth a dedicated post. I will try to come back to some of them. - Mechanical watches is a passion: Of course! Nobody here can disagree, or he should wonder why he... 

Thanks Nicolas ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:29
About the "listen" point, the target is mass production pieces. Cheers, Nilo

Fantastic post, Nilo.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 8th, 2015-06:46
And congratulations on 7000! Point #5 is so true, and I guess everyone here could go on with horror stories about different companies. I would just add to your argument that not only are the companies slow to service, but they are increasingly finding ser... 

Thanks Padj ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:31
Maintenance is an area that we should discuss much more. Cheers, Nilo

Congrats on 7000

 
 By: Warrenjared1 : December 8th, 2015-06:49
very great post, I agree with you on many points!!!

Thank you very much. [nt]

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:49

Congratulations for your 7000th post Nilo and for being so friendly and passion sharing

 
 By: Mark in Paris : December 8th, 2015-08:02
The main sentence I will select from your 6 first points is : "[...] let’s refrain our disappointment because the watches are not made specifically to us ." It is true about style, about technical design or about size. Not all novelties can fit our tastes... 

Thanks Mark ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:34
About my points I'm a strong adept of "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". Cheers, Nilo

Congratulations on this milestone and to thousands more!

 
 By: KMII : December 8th, 2015-08:11
The post is worthy of the achievement, too - very well argued and something we probably all think about from time to time. I hope you continue to educate and entertain us with your passion, your spectacular photography, your knowledge... For many, many ye... 

Thank you Kmii ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:37
I plan to stay here, I love to be here. Cheers, Nilo

Watch companies don't listen to their aficionados.......at least one does.

 
 By: MTF : December 8th, 2015-09:08
Nilo, Felicitations on your 7000 posts milestone. You are almost correct.... I know one watch company that listened to input from PuristS at our 10th anniversary conference in Las Vegas: IGOTT-2. This steel watch was the result and some features were adop...  

There are exceptions ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-09:27
MTF, I had in mind broad produced watches and not limited editions. The great example is a major brand, that each year the brand supporters hope for a change on the chronograph model and this major brand never listens. Cheers, Nilo

Nilo,

 
 By: Daniel85 : December 8th, 2015-09:54
Congratulations for your 7000th post! You have an amazing collection! Thanks for sharing!

Thank you ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-11:09
Cheers, Nilo

congratulations on the milestone

 
 By: donizetti : December 8th, 2015-10:07
I always enjoy your posts and this one especially so. I wholeheartedly agree that slow service is a major gripe but I am afraid that as long we are captive customers of a brand there is not enough incentive to change this. Wonderful watches with a unified... 

Thank you Andreas ....

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-11:11
I don't think that we should be captive of anything, except our wifes. Cheers, Nilo

Congratulations, that is some milestone at 7K...

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 8th, 2015-12:55
I saw you consider the Aventurine dial as one of the key watches that a very good sales can find. Now, after the Spectre, Snoopy, I am given opportunity to this Aventurine, plus a platinum SM300 with number 357/357...I'm running out of funds (, just pick ... 

Thanks Raymond ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 8th, 2015-14:16
If you take the Aventurine in your hands, you are doomed. It's the kind of "I must have it". Pictures of it don't show 50% of the beauty. Cheers, Nilo

Congratulations on the milestone, and thank you for the great write-up.

 
 By: Luis6 : December 8th, 2015-15:30
Like you said, we learn and grow, we change or evolve, we share passion and emotions. I'm really grateful and equally proud to be a part of this PuristSPro community.

Thank you Luis6 ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-02:05
This evolutionary view is very interesting. BTW: Congratulations for your A. Lange & Söhne. Cheers, Nilo

Sorry ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-06:58
The Lange happy owner is Raymond. Nilo

Only you could come up with . . .

 
 By: Dr No : December 8th, 2015-16:21
. . . 'rusty lovers'. That description says it all with two words; defining vintage would take me two paragraphs! It's impossible to imagine this community without you, Hombre. Warmest regards, Art

Thank you Master Art ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-02:07
Being a "rusty lover" is a great thing. As I stated, 2016 will be my "rusty year". Cheers, Nilo

Found myself nodding in agreement all the way

 
 By: Horologically_minded : December 8th, 2015-20:11
Congrats on your 7000th posts, looking forward to many more! J

Thanks J.Sim1984 ...

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-02:08
Stay tuned. I need to complete my small Omega 9300 series. Cheers, Nilo

Congrats Nilo

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : December 9th, 2015-01:26
and thank you for all the nice shots specially the B&W ones Yours D

Hey Master!!!

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-02:09
Thank you very much. Cheers, Nilo

Lovely theme of seven

 
 By: emcquillan : December 9th, 2015-04:55
I appreciate the honest and passionate writing and as always the beautiful pictures. I share many of your sentiments. Much appreciated,

congrats and nice 7000th post!

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : December 9th, 2015-05:11
Onwards to 10K ! #5 Quality control How is it even possible? That is what I have asked myself. From the 13 (new from AD) watches I bought the past 5 years, 3 of them broke down within weeks after purchase. That means that 23% was (a sort of) DOA . That is...  

Quality assurance....

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-07:45
No complains on my side, with the brands that I acquire (Omega, IWC and JLC). I know that some other major brands experience issues but I don't have direct contact with those. Cheers and thank you, Nilo

Thank you Massimiliano [nt]

 
 By: nilomis : December 9th, 2015-13:23

Wow how did I miss this post?!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : December 12th, 2015-19:58
congrats Nilo on the big 7! Lol I mean 7k posts! I enjoyed reading this thank you for the post PuristSPro won't be the same without you my friend. Always love your sharings and participation Here's to many more years of our friendship on PuristSPro! Cheer... 

very good post

 
 By: cronolog : March 6th, 2016-12:44
agreeing on most points, I feel some are missing... - the watch business aside from a very few industrial brands and some individual watchmakers is basically a fraud-system overcharging you by telling lies as real stories and relating to every story possi...