Dunno about Breguet but about JLC, not to worry

Oct 26, 2022,20:28 PM
 

The way the brand is muddling along, there won’t be any favorable changes in the way it’s perceived. (Seems to me JLC’s way of trying to boost resale values is to just keep raising SRPs.)

Still, I keep hoping for actually interesting new products that are accessible to non-oligarchs every time there’s an announcement. I doubt the recent releases of hypertimepieces have meaningful halo effects on the rest of the catalog.

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The Rodney Dangerfield brands - Hey I get no respect!

 
 By: Duffymcpatzer : October 26th, 2022-16:22
Hi gang, Probably showing my age with that title reference, but thought I'd have a little discussion about quality yet underappreciated (by the masses) brands. As I am a fan of one of the most financially depreciable yet fantastic watch brands I'd love to...  

Spot on!

 
 By: Duffymcpatzer : October 26th, 2022-16:46
GP has seen a bit of a hype revival with the Laureato but totally. Outside of the Freak, UN still kicking around the no respect bucket for sure. Their midcentury stuff is a steal.

 
 By: biarritz89 : December 3rd, 2022-21:46
Don't you think part of the JLC catalog is languishing a bit these days? I wanted to purchase a new Reverso Sun Moon a few years back, waited too long, and basically all Reverso complications I like have been discontinued. I find the current Reverso catal... 

 
 By: biarritz89 : December 3rd, 2022-22:21
You are right, my complaints are more targeted towards the lack of exciting entry-level Reverso models. I like the basic Reverso Tribute models, but I find the rest a bit unappealing compared to what was on the market sometime back. Duomètre is super exci... 

The Tribute Small Seconds are quite good, me think. The Tribute Duo in Steel ( white grained dial from 2016 ) was tops, too. The Tribute Moon or the newest Tribute Calendar are not bad.

 
 By: amanico : December 3rd, 2022-22:37
Now, I regret some discontinuations: Geophysics and Deep Sea, for example. These were some very cool lines!

Yes, also where is the plain Ultra Thin?

 
 By: biarritz89 : December 3rd, 2022-22:58
The one without complications, with 849 movement, was glorious. I recall you posted a pic of the jubilee edition: www.watchprosite.com ...  

Indeed!

 
 By: biarritz89 : December 3rd, 2022-23:04
This was a real bargain, a real beauty and a very interesting movement. As a humble collector, it's a bit sad they got rid of it. A very iconic JLC.

Amen to both.

 
 By: Kurt Behm : November 9th, 2022-03:59

Shhhhhh!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 26th, 2022-16:59
Breguet and JLC are special secrets!

Dunno about Breguet but about JLC, not to worry

 
 By: jiggerly-cool : October 26th, 2022-20:28
The way the brand is muddling along, there won’t be any favorable changes in the way it’s perceived. (Seems to me JLC’s way of trying to boost resale values is to just keep raising SRPs.) Still, I keep hoping for actually interesting new products that are... 

Seriously!

 
 By: blau : October 26th, 2022-21:44
JLC is *certainly* not currently doing anything to help change this situation. Maybe they like it this way?

Consumers want…

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2022-16:24
Consumers don’t want a good watch at a good price. No. They want either a super watch at a super high price. Or they want a cheap watch at a low price. The middle of the spectrum doesn’t sell especially well in the watch world.

 
 By: Duffymcpatzer : November 9th, 2022-02:48
Yup, hit the nail on the head there. Middle market is a disaster. And a bunch of manufacturers pushing prices off the deep end isn't helping anything. At 20k+ usd I'm looking at 2nd hand Patek. JLC needs a bit of a refresh dial wise and better marketing. ... 

Exactly... From a Richemont portfolio perspective, they want JLC to stay middle market...

 
 By: patrick_y : November 9th, 2022-03:06
This way Richemont has all their bases covered. We can hope for great things from JLC. Also, considering the market now really cares about movement finishing (which surprises me, 10 years ago, when I was talking about movement finishing, half the people d... 

JLC is my soft spot too...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2022-23:58
JLC really makes some amazing watches. Especially that Westminster Chime that's so big I couldn't fit it on my wrist. But still very cool nonetheless. We can hope. And we can talk Matthieu's ear off! I also have a soft spot for Breguet too. But honestly, ... 

Poor breguet

 
 By: Duffymcpatzer : November 9th, 2022-02:39
Agree completely. Breguet is lost at sea currently. I don't mean with just the Marine line. Lol. This last update on the CLASSIQUE CALENDRIER 7337 was just all wrong IMHO. It's so far removed from what makes a Breguet a Breguet to me it's just sad. I have... 

Sad to read that!

 
 By: patrick_y : November 9th, 2022-03:04
I do feel strongly that Breguet timepieces are exceptional timepieces. But yes, there are very few models that speak to me currently. But it's an awesome brand. I really wished some of the cooler La Tradition pieces were a little thinner and easier to wea... 

Yes!+1

 
 By: hmd4m : October 26th, 2022-21:44

Since you brought it up…(Nico: 💭 oh no not again🤣😆😂)

 
 By: myles721 : October 26th, 2022-17:05
The Duoface does not deserve IMO any respect.”Of Richemont” says it all. Four pieces in a row out of the box either noticeable blemishes or faulty movements…1000 hours..really!? Refused to refund cash until I threatened legal action. I don’t ever bring it...  

Uh oh: I have a Duoface & now I’m wondering what I missed

 
 By: jiggerly-cool : October 26th, 2022-20:07
Mine works fine & has no QC issues—or so I believe!—though if there’re any it’s too late now (bought >6yrs ago). The only gripes I have are that the seconds don’t hack and the day-night indicator isn’t quite right (iirc, current ones are ok).

That’s why I don’t respond to people that already own with no issues…

 
 By: myles721 : October 26th, 2022-20:35
If you don’t have a problem after six years I can’t imagine that you would have a problem going forward. I think this is a site that respects honest dialogue this actually happened so it’s hard for me not to make a comment if someone is directly asking wh... 

Well, my Grand Seiko fiasco went badly here

 
 By: Cookies : October 27th, 2022-09:50
I like your honesty. But many around like to hear only the good stuff…i still tell the truth. Will never look at another GS with what happened to me.

What happened with GS?

 
 By: myles721 : October 27th, 2022-11:46

American exclusive became worldwide

 
 By: Cookies : October 27th, 2022-12:52
I don’t know any company with integrity that does this type of marketing sophistry.