Fleiss und Wille ???? Need assistance

By: HBH : May 23rd, 2008-10:49

I am not sure i am posting this in the correct forum, so if anyone can help me that would be great. does anyone have any idea what/who fleiss und wille is? or perhaps a hallmark F & H? for a musical pocket watch dated 1903. It is 14K and appears to be Fre...

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Fleiss & Wille

By: DonCorson : May 23rd, 2008-12:51

That looks to me to be the saying that goes with that coat of arms. "Fleiss und Wille" "Industriousness and Will" is probably not the most poetic translation, but word for word from German. My guess is that is the coat of arms that the purchaser had engra...

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Fleiss & Wille

By: HBH : May 25th, 2008-12:10

thanks don, didn't know what it meant even. inside the case it is hallmarked F&H i believe. i can't even identify the song it plays. i hope i can get more input from the watchpros. is this forum the right place for this type of post? have a great day

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This may not help

By: masterspiece : May 26th, 2008-17:49

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Fleiss Und Wille

By: howard : January 18th, 2017-17:41

I have a wristwatch with the same German Motto and a similar but expanded crest. The watch is a 25 year award for the years 1928-52. The motto translates as Diligence and Will and I suspect it is a corporate or government logo and motto.

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Fleiss Und Wille

By: howardsandys : January 23rd, 2017-19:13

I believe this is the motto of the Markhof Family of Austria. I have a 25 Year Wristwatch with their Family Crest engraved on the were and possibly are still involved in a brewery/food company in Austria. Fleiss Und Wille ...

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Thanks for the information but for the original poster

By: MTF : January 24th, 2017-08:33

8 years ago, he / she / it may be too late. I hope they still read PuristSPro. But at least we all know the source of the "brand" is actually a family motto. Regards, MTF

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