Owners review: Girard-Perregaux Carré Cambré Chronograph 2499

Sep 19, 2017,23:12 PM
 

Friends,

 

Let’s have a closer look at one watch from my collection that holds a special place, the Chronograph Carré Cambré 2499. It came into my collection in October 2014, so it’s coming up for its 3rd anniversary.





 



However, the Carré Cambré has a longer history in my collection, in fact it was one of the early GPs that I added in my collection around 2010. First, the 2598 and then the 2498 with white dial.



 

While I was searching for a 2598, I came across in shops the 2498 quite often and immediately liked the case and bezel. Different character than the more bulky 2598 and the fine Guilloche dial adds a lot of interest when looking at it in different lights and at different angles.



After I had found a 2598 with black dial, I hunted the 2498 with white dial. At that time the similar 2499 was quite elusive, very rare and very hard to find. For many years I pursued finding a 2499 when I eventually in 2014 succeeded.

 

For me, the 2499 combines the best parts of the 2598 and 2498, it brings the Guilloche dial and superb bezel together with a 2 register, no date Chronograph.

 

So let’s look closer at the 2499:





 

The case:

 

How to best describe the case? Cushion I think comes closest, however, in real, the watch appears more round than square. The case is dimensioned 38 x 38mm without crown and pushers.


 

The lower case has a satin finish on all sides and lugs, but the chambered carré top is mirror polished as the pushers and the crown. The bezel sits very flat with a domed crystal and has a highly polished ring. The domed crystal provides real challenges for taking photos, but in real gives the watch a very classy look.



 

The lugs are 21mm apart and the standard strap would be 21/16 with rounded ends and a 16mm pin buckle. Alternatively, there was a bracelet available.


 

Case height is 13.5mm but a large part of that is due to the domed crystal, overall, I find the dimensions perfectly in harmony.

 

The case back is secured with 7 screws and provides for a 30m water resistance. The case back on my watch has an engraving and watch collectors will surely recognize that engraving. My 2499 comes from a series that was commissioned to the Sultan of Oman and hence carries the Sultans coat of arms on its back.


 

I have done some research with the help of the GP curator (many thanks!) and was able to obtain some production numbers:

 

The 2598 had 1904 watches produced from 1999 till 2006

 

Not a large number but still quite a bit. Now look at the 2498 and 2499:

 

2498: total of 711 watches of which 288 with white and 423 with black dial

 

2499: total of 313 pieces with 183 in white and 130 in black

 

So only 130 ever made with black dial of the Ref 2499, no wonder they are hard to find.

 

I assume even much less have the Sultan of Oman coat of arms. My watch was in a lot of 40 watches (20 on bracelet, 20 on strap) sold through Al Dorar in Saudi Arabia, but if all of them had been engraved with the Coat of Arms is not known.

 

 

The dial:

 

The most charming part of Ref 2499 is its dial. Not often has GP used a Guilloche pattern dial for its Chronographs, only the Vintage 45, Ref 2599 comes to mind.


 

The black dial is everything but just black. I’m not sure if it is because of the Guilloche pattern or if the dial actually is printed in a dark grey, but that’s how it appears. At some angles though it can be very black again. On top of the Guilloche pattern, you have an applied “12” and “6” which are highly polished and angled and polished indexes The minute track has small lume dots every 5 min. The hands are very visible in any light condition and also have lume.


 

Two subregisters with running seconds at 3 and a 30min counter at 9. As often seen, GP added a bit of red spice with a red print “automatic” and red top numbers on the subregisters.




 

The movement:

 

All Carré Cambré models sport a solid case back as inside you have an ETA-modified caliber. In the case of the 2499, the caliber name is GP 022C0-Q0VSS and has an ETA automatic caliber with 11.5”’ and a Dubois-Depraz Chronograph module sized 13’”. The modular design can be seen from the side view with the crown/stem sitting lower than the Chronograph pushers. Overall it has 45 jewels and a min 40h power reserve when fully wound.

 

I don’t have a photo of the movement of the 2499 and I’m not going to open the case back, but our friend Nilomis shared some movement photos of his 2498, with a very similar movement. So photo credits Nilomis:



 


The pusher feel is rather stiff and requires a good forced push, but the winding by crown is smooth, of course, not to be compared with an integrated or even a manual wind design.

 

The wrist experience:

 

Presence, Coolness and Sparkle to sum it up.


 

Presence: like a perfect size for my taste, very comfortable, visibly bigger than 38mm, and always present.

 

Coolness: the all black dial and strap gives it its coolness along with the less common case shape. The rectangular pushers are a perfect match with the rest of the case.



 

Sparkle: the polished case top, the bezel ring and the indexes are the elements that catch even the smallest light and sparkle it back. Sometimes, you can sit there for minutes with very little movement and you get so many different light reflections. A detail I truly love.

 

And then there is the Guilloche dial. It does not jump at you, it is really subtle but it adds a level of sophistication to the dial that makes a large part of the wrist experience. It actually is a very traditional pattern with 12 segments and enlarging circle segments combined with a sports chronograph in a sporty case, but it works surprisingly well.



 

Lastly, the domed crystal, which I tried to capture here as best as possible. It adds even more sophistication and well thought-through design.

 

In summary, I think the Girard-Perregaux Carré Cambré 2499 manages to square the circle in a most convincing way. I’m sure it will become a sought-after classic in a few years, but in the end you will need to experience it on the wrist to truly come under its spell.

 

CC


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A really nice watch

 
 By: brauner : September 20th, 2017-00:28
Thanks for the report

Thank you for this detailed look at this 2499!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 20th, 2017-00:46
A stunning watch! (And a nightmare to take in photos). Interesting to see the production numbers - not high numbers for any of the watches. Guess it goes well with the GP slogan "Watches for the few"! Best Blomman

Thanks, my friend.

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-01:02
Yes, some quite low production numbers even by GP standards. Taking photos of it is really hard, but once in a while, some come out quite well, but they cannot do the watch justice when seen in the metal.

Wonderful review my friend : beautiful pics, many insightful infos to read, we learn a lot about both CC and these 2 references ;)

 
 By: Mike H : September 20th, 2017-02:15
I must say that I like a lot this cushion shape case so these 2 tick this box perfectly . On top of that I am biaised as ref 2499 rings a (Patek) bell in my mind as being a mythic iconic fantastic reference, so these digits 2 4 9 9 do sound like magic in ... 

Thanks a lot, Mike. Yes "2499" is

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-02:43
a magic number. Hmm, I wonder if there is a GP with Ref 3448 as well.

The 2498 and 2499 clearly offers much more sensuality compared to the 2598 in my opinion (too thick)

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 20th, 2017-02:20
Then, between these both timepieces, I have a soft spot for the 2498 and its white dial even if the 2499 has a "purer" dial (no date and sub dial at 6). I like when you conclude by saying "square the circle". The perfect definition for this unusual case 😉... 

Thanks Alkiro for the input

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-02:44
interesting that you prefer the 2498 over the 2499. I think in white it is a fantastic watch even with the date.

Is it a rarer version compared to the other ones?

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 20th, 2017-06:32
Best wishes Alkiro

I listed the production numbers in the text

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-06:35
of the 2499 white dial 183 pieces were produced

Sorry my mistake

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 20th, 2017-06:45
Best wishes Alkiro

No problem, :))) [nt]

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-06:53

🙏

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 20th, 2017-07:59
Best wishes Alkiro

very nice GP

 
 By: ed : September 20th, 2017-03:34
I had the monopusher version. Loved it. Great pics btw...😊 best ed

Thanks Ed for the kind words

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-04:12
Monopusher? Do you have any photos? Or do you mean the Rattrapante like the one just shown by Gelato? www.watchprosite.com Thanks, CC

Of the ones you posted in this thread, my favorite is the 2598.

 
 By: Luis6 : September 20th, 2017-04:15
But you are right, the 2499 combines the best parts of the 2598 and 2498.

Thanks Luis

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-04:52
I found that the 2598 and the 2499 have very different characters. Not sure what it is, but I suspect it has to do with the Guilloche dial and its more grey appearance.

Superb review and amazing rare specimen

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 20th, 2017-05:18
Once again bravo! I have strong affection for these refs Cheers D

Thanks D! I think the 2499 or 2498

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-06:24
is a good entry into modern GPs, quite affordable if you can find one.

Thanks for the review

 
 By: montres1 : September 20th, 2017-06:09
Thanks CC for the great review. An opportunity for me to get to know the ref. 2499, and to get more details on this 2498 / 2499 series. As owner of a 2498 I can only confirm that I love this watch, the case has a very uncommon shape which renders it quite... 

Thanks montres1 for your inputs

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-06:26
we would love to see your 2498, so when you get a chance to take some photos would great. I share to some extent your sentiments about the DD module, but I have to say a modular Chronograph design is nothing to be ashamed of in that price range. As for co... 

Erratum

 
 By: montres1 : September 20th, 2017-07:59
My mistake I got mixed up with the references ! Actually I have a 2598 with black dial ! I agree on the fact that the DD module is not an issue as such, I just meant that it becomes thicker and I have this issue with the crown / comfort. For the rest grea... 

Thorough report, CC.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : September 20th, 2017-10:00
Excellent. I know this is de rigeur around here but the watch does look better without a date. One thing about GP chronographs-their casework is just excellent. The cases have a "massive" feel and appearance without being too big on the wrist. This is ano... 

Great review, and very nice GP.

 
 By: vitalsigns : September 20th, 2017-14:15
Probably a very good value if able to be located. I wonder how something similar would fare if offered by GP with an upgraded movement in today's market. Cheers, John

Thanks John, interesting idea

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-23:06
I'm not 100% the case shape would really hit today's taste and could become a big success like the Laureato. Perhaps in a few years, but when we allow us wishes, how would I love to see that integrated manual Chronograph movement from GP in a 2-register, ... 

You're most welcome, pv45! [nt]

 
 By: crown comfort : September 20th, 2017-23:06

Thanks CJ for your kind comments. [nt]

 
 By: crown comfort : September 21st, 2017-02:36

Advice on my GP 2498

 
 By: Kannan Ramakrishnan : December 25th, 2018-19:57
Hi, I have a GP 2498 with a black dial and I have had an issue with it stopping intermittently even if I have been wearing it all day. I have had the watch overhauled but the issue continues. Have you encountered this or have any advice on the cause of th... 

Hi Kannan, welcome here!

 
 By: crown comfort : December 26th, 2018-00:30
your problem sounds like that the watch needs service. I did not have that problem and it is not something common. You said that the watch was overhauled. Was that done through a GP AD? If so, they would provide you with a warranty for 12 months after ser... 

Re:Advice on my GP 2498

 
 By: Kannan Ramakrishnan : December 27th, 2018-08:07
Thanks for the feedback. Best, Kannan