vnaves
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Data, pics, and thanks.
First of all, thanks to everyone for your help. I send new pics, but I’m afraid I’m not the best of photographers.
Between the lugs at six, neither twelve, dear Blomman, there is no any reference number. The numeral is inside the case, below the seal, and is the 2398046. For any reason in the back there is other very little size number: 13083-1.
John, you're really right, as my watch repairer asserted, about the caliber. Yes, it’s an Unitas caliber and it seems to be any kind of anti-shock system more than an Incabloc, speaking properly. There is not a piece with a lyre-shape supporting the balance wheel, as far as I could understood. Very strange such a house as GP telling little lies about his products.
Another detail: the crown in plain. No GP logo. I've seen this in another few models, but maybe also that is not the original, of course.
As for me, it’s resulting peculiar this timepiece, as I thought I had bought a cheap thing made in huge quantities for the masses to have a “luxury” and… it seems to be something a bit rare.
Any case, thanks again to everyone.
Could somebody help me to identify this old GP?
A couple of weeks ago I bought in an auction at the web my first GP: a very modest and simple piece, but in my opinion beautiful and at a very good price. A manual winding, steel case, blue screen, seconds at six, with a not home made, neither ETA or simi...
Welcome here!
Hi Vnaves and welcome here! I moved your post from the HoMe forum to this dedicated GP forum. About your watch, interesting look. I never saw one like it - which doesn't mean it did not exist. There are many GP's from the 60's I never saw yet... Could you...
About the sphere & more
Thank you very much, Blomman. At this moment I cant get another pic, because the time piece is at my watch repairer to clean it, etc, but there is only written "17 jewels" and below "Incabloc". In the rear cover there are a serial number: 13083-1 in very ...
Please ask the watchmaker to take some photos of....
The movement and the dial. Beteen the lugs at 6 there should be a reference number. Best Blomman
Stamp under balance wheel...
...looks like a U T in a Shield, which would be UNITAS. Confirmation from OP will help. Sincerely, John
Additionally, the shock absorber...
...doesn't appear to be an INCABLOC, but something similar to a CONTRACHOC. Others more experienced may speak up and issue more definitive info. Sincerely, John
Data, pics, and thanks.
First of all, thanks to everyone for your help. I send new pics, but I’m afraid I’m not the best of photographers. Between the lugs at six, neither twelve, dear Blomman, there is no any reference number. The numeral is inside the case, below the seal, and...
The only record I can find about GP using....
Unitas movements with Incabloc and Sub-second is the GP 993 based on the Unitas 6431 which was in use in for only one year, 1970. What puzzles me is the following: 1. Normally you would not see the UT stamp on the movement, GP would do their own decoratio...
I can't find any references that ...
GP used Unitas 6376, but both are very similar in layout. Thank you for your inpuit, John! Best Blomman
At the end of the day.
After having a look at google images, it looks much more likely as an Unitas 6376. Then there is the question about the use of the word Incabloc... I had a look at the oficial GP page and they charge me 200 swiss francs (192€) just for identifying and giv...
Vintage Watches
Victor, I hope you have not taken my posts negatively. My matter-of-fact answers could be construed as cold and clinical (it is my engineer brain). Please accept my apology if I offended you. When it comes to vintage passion, there are few forums that hav...
Not at all.
Dear John: No, of course I didn't feel upset for anything you said. Not even I'd appreciated any tone cynical or offensive in your words. I'm not english-speaking native, but I use to understand and catch the second intentions of the words, except in the ...
Dear John,
Your comment were very helpful and I hope you join us more often. No need for novels if the information share helps in the right dirrection! :) Best Blomman
Most brands ...
Charge for getting into their archives. Which is unfortunet but understandable since most brands only have paper archives for their vintage watches... To search takes time.... I am very happy you have found us, Victor. Hope to read much more from you! :) ...
Purtroppo
Victor, purtroppo l'orologio è un fake . E' sempre sgradevole dover dare queste notizie ma credo che sia utile fornire informazioni, anche se spiacevoli , a chi inizia a collezionare GP d'epoca. Per determinare se un Girard Perregaux databile dagli anni 3...
Thank you for the confirmation, Giuseppe.
Sad news but good to get confirmation. Good to have an expert here! Best Blomman
Hi Victor
a warm welcome here from me as well. Let me assure you that similar things have happened to all of us. I do echo Guiseppe's assessment, but there is not only bad news. For one: you found this forum :) For two, most people tend to learn from mistakes and d...
+1 on all you said, CC! We all made this ....
And we all will do it again... But that will not stop us - because the pleasure when we find a good one is too big to be without! :) Best Blomman
Perfect!!!
First of all my most sincere and enormous thanks to Giuseppe for that huge work and the lot of time he took for me. Great masterclass he gave. That's not such a pity. The waste of money wasn't so big, the lesson I've received is priceless to learn to step...
Your second example.....
Victor, Happy to know you are not beaten down by the GP you got. As you say, cheap learning money, if Rolex or Patek..... As for your second example - GP did use goldplated cases and also goldplated top with steel bottom case. I have not seen the stamp in...
I agree
I will not comment on the Piaget, just don't know enough. The GP seems okay, I know the seller from the Philippines, have bought one watch there before. That one is mid to late 70ies and yes, in fact most vintage gold GPs are only gold-plated, but quality...
Great!
As a result of all of this, I contacted the seller, who hadn't also the lesser idea about vintage GP's (he bought it at another auction and the watch fits very little for his wrist) and he offered to bring my money back, so we are starting the paces to un...
Victor, money is not what counts here....
In this forum - PASSION is everything! :) Some have one or no watch, some have hundreds.... Doesn't matter, we are all here for the same thing - watches! And to join the forum is for free... :) Best Blomman
Totally right.
...but my gunpowder is limited, so -and grateful to the advice about the new GP I had under surveillance, then I thought it was another fake, but another mate confirmed it seems to be a real GP 9628 ellipse- and after a bit of investigation, that money, b...
Please feel free to share some of your other watches as well! :)
We have dedicated Omega and Zenith forums here and for the brands we don't have decicated forums, there is always the HoMe forum where you may post any brand! :) Best Blomman
Sorry!
Sorry, dear Blomman. I was just telling a little story about how I started in this. Of course never tried to flaunt. The brands I refered were buyed the most of them second hand or old -yes, I mean old fasioned- or vintage pieces. And never beyond than $1...