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Thank you Christian!

 

I believe that no all dial sizes are the same across models, right? So if we take a 40mm CS, the bezel will be wider then a 40mm CO. Because the dial and the movement of a CO are larger. Now that is what tickles me a little bit. I usually also like thin bezels but in this case it appears the dial almost pops (similar to the Resonnance 2nd gen).
But in any case, this is not at all ruining it for me, far from it! I anyway would not take the 42mm due to my wrist size.
On the winding, i indeed noticed the stronger effort required to wind vs my CB. Comparing the size of the barrels, no wondersmile. And they serve an important purpose in the CO. Was just asking if the winding becomes "harder" as one winds the watch or if constant over the winding...
PS: sorry for the obsessive questionssmile!

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Chronomètre Optimum Questions

 
By: p-m-k : April 9th, 2022-09:28
Dear Journees! During my Geneva visit for Watches & Wonders, I finally had the chance to see and try a Chronomètre Optimum and the obsession for that piece just went further! And no less, I could also finally meet FP in person which was amazing! I have 2x...  

my thoughts from my past Journe journey...

 
By: mahesh : April 9th, 2022-11:10
the overall proportionality of the 40mm is perfect, especially the bezel is the only differentiator for 42mm. 42mm case works better for person who have >18cm wrists. I've not handled the this particular movement, so my thoughts on winding feel is based o... 

Hi Patrick

 
By: ChristianDK : April 9th, 2022-12:31
You are right. The Optimum is indeed a very special. I consider it one of the best watches from FPJ. There is absolutely no difference on the face of the 40 mm and 42 mm. It’s only the case that is 2 mm bigger. Same movement, same dial. Personally I prefe... 

Thank you Christian!

 
By: p-m-k : April 9th, 2022-18:36
I believe that no all dial sizes are the same across models, right? So if we take a 40mm CS, the bezel will be wider then a 40mm CO. Because the dial and the movement of a CO are larger. Now that is what tickles me a little bit. I usually also like thin b... 

To illustrate:

 
By: p-m-k : April 9th, 2022-18:52
Assuming movement and dial size are the same / remain proportional, we can see there are significant differences in how much the movement (and therefore the dial) occupies in a same FPJ 40mm case. I am probably stating the obvious here for you all, but I ... 

This is true, the CS at 40 is a bit different case than say, any Octa at 40. But the CS and CB are only available in one size each.

 
By: houstonian : April 9th, 2022-19:31
I think Christian’s advice was that for any watch available in both 40 and 42, the dial will be the same and only the case is different (you mention in your post you like the dial of the 40 CO better). In the older models it’s the same, except between 38 ... 

Yes, correct. If a watch is available in two sizes it’s the same movement and dial within that model.

 
By: ChristianDK : April 10th, 2022-08:39
Across models it’s a different size due to the size of the movements. Indeed the size of bezel changes the appearance a fair bit. Add to that the overall proportion of the case and the feeling that gives. Personally I always found the 42 mm CO disproporti... 

Hi Patrick, I had the same dilemma (40 vs 42) and was able to try on several at my local AD before FPJ went boutique only.

 
By: houstonian : April 9th, 2022-17:11
As others mention, the dials are the same but the case & bezel are thicker on the 42. Here are some photos that may help you. The first three watches are 42, the second three are 40. My wrist is 6.75” and my personal preference is for the 40. ...  

Great to see those next to each other, thank you!

 
By: p-m-k : April 9th, 2022-18:43
I have actually the same wrist size as you, so this is very helpful. And indeed, I would favour the 40mm too! On your pictures, one can see very well what I was replying to Christian above: on the CR 2nd generation, the bezel is very slim. And I am surpri... 

Congratulations on a great choice Patrick

 
By: donizetti : April 10th, 2022-08:32
I think Journe‘s esthetics are Breguet-like with regard to cases, which means slimmer looks better. So for the older models, I prefer 38mm over 40mm and for the newer 40mm over 42mm. Best Andreas

Thanks Andreas

 
By: p-m-k : April 16th, 2022-16:20
I let you know when I am near Mannheim. Would be great to catchup!

The bezel question

 
By: cmmnsens : April 13th, 2022-23:26
In general FP designs all his watches with a 'thick' bezel. This is why the models offered in only one size all have the thick bezel look (CS, CB, CT, TN, UTC, etc). For watches that come in two sizes (40, 42), his default design is always for the size 42... 

Thanks for the super helpful perspectives!

 
By: p-m-k : April 16th, 2022-16:23
I didn’t know this was the approach of FP! I will now look for a CO 40mm to try in the wild! I keep you posted when I can find one!