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Just a small note on the Minerva connection, as
some people are taking this too far and are unjustifiably accusing Panerai of twisting history.
Panerai do not claim, nor is there any historic significance to the Minerva movement in the history of Panerai. All Panerai are pointing to, with a smile, is the anecdotal coincidence of the Orologeria Svizzera buying some Minerva movements.
Panerai never branded pocket watches, but Orologeria Svizzera (which WAS Panerai in the beginning of the 20th century) certainly made pocket watches under the exclusive brand, Eldis. These pocket watches, BTW, did not house Minerva movements.
I am stepping down from the soap box now.
Asi
Just a small note on the Minerva connection, as
some people are taking this too far and are unjustifiably accusing Panerai of twisting history. Panerai do not claim, nor is there any historic significance to the Minerva movement in the history of Panerai. All Panerai are pointing to, with a smile, is t...
I've been quiet through these past discussions so let me voice my opinion now.
I agree with Asi. Come on guys, let's just face it. I'm not afraid to voice my opinion of things. There really isn't much of a history with Panerai and Minerva. How many of you guys here associated Minerva with Panerai BEFORE this year's SIHH? I bet the a...
With you also, Anthony, I agree, BUT
Even if I perfectly understand the business reason, it's a bit sad to see a company like Panerai, which is pretending to have a strong link ith its history, fall in these business reasons... Sad? You will say, and you will be once again right, that I'm ve...
Every company will be this way unfortunately
Nothing remains "pure" once your rise in popularity especially if you have Panerai's huge success. That's just a fact in the business world. Panerai can only go so far introducing models associated with its past, and so when they are near exhaustion with ...
Anthony, this discussion would deserve an entire post
As this is, indeed a very interesting topic. I don't understand where Panerai wants to go, and I'm not alone, as I see more and more old guys running form them. I strongly believe that Panerai can develop a new vision ( for them) of horology and integrate...
Anytime you do anything new in any business, u risk losing your oldtimers
those who have purchased your watches and supported you in the past. It's all part of the game. You might lose those oldtimers but you then gain a new customer base. You're one of the guys who are hardcore original Panerai that I consider you still "stuck...
Word came directly from the BH boutique
confirming Panerai's past use of Minerva's movement. While this is misinformed, it plainly looks like a willingness to say anything that people want to hear. We've known for many years that there isn't any connection with Minerva. The words of many may co...
Any idea...
if these two models are going to be distributed only through the panerai boutiques? Thx
not more nor less than a 203
"Panerai is asking too much money for a simple watch with a simple unrelated movement" Sorry but I can't justify the 18000 euro for the 203 neither. The movement isn't beautifull, it is't very good finished and it is a simple 3 hands watch. Now, if all th...
In 2005, the 203 was priced at 14,5 K euros
It was the same movement than in the Vintage 6152/1 with the small seconds, and yes, we can think about its value, too high ( or too low if we consider the prices in the auctions or grey market...100 K euros!!!), but you're not wrong, Bruno, we can wonder...
So let me get it right Bruno, you are saying
that the luxury watch prices have anything to do with logic? I thought only feelings and passion can move a reasonable adult to pay anything above $200. To understand a passion, one must first be educated. The 203 is not selling for 5 times the MRSP becau...
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Well 200 is a bit low for high end pieces But your right about the fact that some prices are not logical. On the other hand, imo a Journe CS which is also availbalbe for about 18K is a lot more watch than the 203. I'm only talking about the watch, not the...
Bruno, the equity of the Panerai brand is deeply rooted in its history
The divers who wore these tools were a courageous bunch, fighting a losing war with minimal resources, but great ingenuity and valor. Panerai provided the instruments that made the difference between success and death. There's a sense of humanity and conn...
Thanks Asi, I would see
the 309 and 322 as simply being in the line of expensive Panerai SE produced with a variety of movements 47, 147 (a retail of USD 49,000!) and 158 with Venus 67 with Lemania (USD 25,500) 78 with Omega (USD 22,800) Even if 309/322 are not gold/platinum cas...
