Patek Philippe 5370P Split-Seconds Chronograph Review
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Patek Philippe 5370P Split-Seconds Chronograph Review

By Mark in Paris · Sep 12, 2015 · 97 replies
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Mark in Paris provides an in-depth review of the Patek Philippe Ref. 5370P, a significant 2015 release that quickly garnered attention for its unique combination of complications and design elements. This article delves into the watch's platinum case, black enamel dial, and the intricate CH29-535 movement, offering a comprehensive look at what makes this reference a potential future icon.

Forumners,


After a few months, I think it is a good time to look back at the new Patek Philippe 5370P, unveiled during Baselworld 2015. It is a new reference but is aiming at becoming a future iconic model and from what we understand: it won't be produced at a normal rate.

Aside from the current steel cushion-shaped 5950A or the thin 5959P which are split-seconds chronographs-only (both with the same in-house CH27-525 thin movement), the new Patek Philippe 5370P is the only one which brings this complication combination with a very different in-house movement (CH29-535).

We may also have in mind the old 5004 or now the 5204, which replaced it. However, this last reference, also with the CH29-535 movement base, has a Perpetual Calendar feature.

During these last 10 months when the brand has been celebrating its 175th anniversary, we can certainly say that the 5370P is one of the most appealing novelties presented and even one of the most appealing from this last decade.

Let's make a complete tour of this reference, illustrated with fabulous pictures by Magnus B and Oliver M; Thank you guys.



THE CASE

This new reference is dressed in a 41mm platinum case that is 13.5mm thick. The proportions are very nice and give more strength and presence to the watch than the thinner reference 5950 (with a different case shape). As the dial is black, the watch looks more like a 40mm in-the-metal.

It is covered with a beautiful concave bezel.

To the choice: the little more character for the 5370P or the little more elegance that the very thin other references bring: everyone will have their own preference.





The case remains a very appealing and classical one from the face side reminding us of the reference 130, from the shape of lugs to the concave bezel.

You can see here below a reference 130 version made for Boeing. You'll notice also the strap's stems coming out of the lugs (and thus why the 5370P has white gold "cabochons").





However, when you look at it from the side, you easily notice what I think is a first in Patek Philippe history with the long grooved case band, going from one lug to the other. This decorative element is brushed: making it a polished surface, aside from being near impossible to realize, would not have look as nice as it would have suited a more standard case shape instead.

I'd like to emphasize the fact that, after the dial, it is is the second element you really notice when seeing the watch "live". This case band makes it so unique like no other Patek chronograph you knew before. It gives a lot of character to the model and brings Patek's chronographs in a new aesthetical field.







The "cabochon" parts remind us of older watches: these elements were made to hide the stem holes, back then. Here, it is decorative and a very nice detail you can't miss when reading time. You can notice in the pictures that they are precisely integrated into the lugs as the grooved end is shaped to the cabochon's diameter.







THE CROWN AND PUSHERS

Like many here, I appreciate the monopusher function and I especially like the fact the crown remains small as it usually unbalances the crown side of the case when it is too big.





I also prefer this symmetrical layout (monopusher with 2 standard pushers) rather than a monopusher for start/stop and a little additional unique pusher at 10 or 2 o'clock for the Split-second function. This later solution also doesn't allow usage as precisely of the chronograph function because it resets after you stopped it with the monopusher crown.

Here, it is balanced and usable with 100% of its function.

The pushers are the way I love them: polished with brushed sides. It is hence perfectly coherent with the polished and brushed case's parts.







THE DIAL

The dial is in white gold and filled with enamel. The enameled material is heated at 850°C and goes through a precise cooling process until it is ready for a long polishing work.





What is also really hard to master is how to make enameled dials without any impurities. These residues are more visible in a black dial than in white versions, hence the great difficulty in mastering this complex process.
On these pictures you can quite clearly observe how stunning the dial looks compared to usual painted or even lacquered ones.

I don't think there is another reference in the Patek Philippe Collection giving this result.





The nice Breguet numerals that we also have in the 5170G, for instance, are applied in white gold.





I usually pay strong attention to the white printing on a dark dial as usually it is too contrasted and thus, lacking in refinement for my taste. However, I also understand it may bring a touch of modernism or casual touch to a usually very classical watch.

As far as the 5370P is concerned, you notice the dial is very shiny being made of enamel and very precisely polished. This allows the contrast to be more coherent because it needs to be adequate with the light reflection on the black surface.

You'll also notice in the pictures below, that the little thickness of the markings brings sensuality and looks gorgeous.

I didn't really like the thickness of the new 5905P sub-dial printing as there it looks much less elegant and brings much more visual weight to this side of the dial.

Here, in the 5370P, I find them perfect.





In the recent past, Patek Philippe chronographs have had different versions of scales: since the 3970, 5070, 5970 to the 5170 or various models of the 5270 (see my post here concerning the place of the 5170G reference in the brand history: www.watchprosite.com ). My personal favorites are used in the 5370P, whether they are Tachymetric or Pulsometric, although I have a little preference for the latter (except if the dials are too busy).

I think it perfectly balances the subsidiary dials™ scales and help give life to the very dark dial color. I think that with such a glossy dial, having less printings and different hands colors than we have here would have led to a very dark watch. It would have been different with a satin or matte dial finish.




THE HANDS

When having a closer look at the leaf  hands, with luminous coating that is usually a sportier feature, I think it makes the watch even more unique as it remains classical as well. Together with the black dial, it brings a little romanticism. I think that Stick or Dauphine hands would have had a completely different impact, more modern but less "authentic" in the look.

By the way, the luminous coating from the hands already brings this touch of casual spirit.

That way, the watch really seems to come from the early 20th century instead of the 60's/70's period. This is something I appreciate very much for that model.







INSIDE THE 5370P

The 29.6mm movement is the same new in-house chronograph base already seen in the 5204 reference: in this case, the CHR 29-535 PS (manually wound, column wheel, horizontal clutch).

In this configuration it has a 55h to 65h power reserve and beats quite fast at 28,800 vph.

It has gained a number of new patented innovations compared to the simple chronograph movement used in the 5170.

As in the 5204, the movement is equipped with an isolator when timing is stopped to reduce friction and power loss between the chronograph and the split-second module wheels.




 
These are what can be noticed about the caliber's innovations. They are not just "marketing" evolutions but interesting and sometimes very simple features:

- Clutch wheels with patented tooth profiles boost efficiency in power transmission and reduce wear.

- The mesh depth of the clutch wheels is not adjusted with an eccentric next to the clutch lever; this is done much more precisely and easily with an eccentric column wheel cap at the outermost end of the clutch lever.

- Self-adjusting hammers in jewel bearings simplify the servicing procedure.

- The brake lever that stops the chronograph wheel is directly synchronized with the clutch lever.

- The slotted minute-counter cam coasts the chronograph and split-seconds hands to a stop rather than abruptly blocking them.

These new features of the mechanical chronograph are joined by innovations dedicated exclusively to the split-seconds function:

- When lap times are stopped, a newly designed isolator uncouples the split-seconds wheel from the chronograph wheel to eliminate unwanted friction and prevent a degradation of balance amplitude while the split-seconds hand is immobilized.

- The split-seconds lever positions a ruby roller between two flat heart-cam shoulders keeps the chronograph and split-seconds hands precisely aligned as long as they are superposed.





I think the technicality performance is not only assessed by how complex a movement is or by the number of component parts, but also when it brings improvement with simple solutions.

Aesthetically speaking, I think it looks gorgeous and brings this modern reference a step forward from the previous 5004 reference in terms of design (not in terms of finishing which remain equivalent). The finishing is top notch and this central bridge always amazed me. It is as impressive aesthetically, as the 5950's CH27-525 caliber.

As for the exemplary finishing, most parts (steel) are chamfered and the split-seconds clamps are highly polished.

I must say I prefer steel instead of German silver as I'm not fond of the "yellow" patina. I don't know about the resistance issue but I wonder if steel is stronger than German silver? Can someone please confirm or otherwise?






I really think there is no point in opposing or ranking these movements. They correspond with the technical expectations from the brand for each model and they reach another level from the usual, still very nice, 324 and 240 calibers.

The movement CH29-535 PS is another very significant reason to be attracted to this 5370P.

As usual, the watch is provided with a see-through caseback as well as the plain one.







In conclusion, I know that some members here are willing to apply for this watch and I just can congratulate them for this choice and hope they will succeed in holding it soon.

It is easy to feel how much pleasure the owner will find in wearing this 5370P. It must be a very special feeling, wearing something unique and absolutely gorgeous.

This new 5370P is a very clever composition from what the brand's knows best when dealing with finishing, aesthetics or mechanics.

Hope you enjoyed this review and feel free to share with us what you think of this new reference in the Patek Philippe Collection.


Cheers,

Mark In Paris





This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-09-14 14:32:00

About the Patek Philippe Complications Ref. 130

The Patek Philippe Reference 130 is a significant chronograph model, notable for its classic design and the various configurations in which it was produced. While many examples feature a standard chronograph layout, specific iterations, such as those with split-seconds functionality, represent a higher echelon of horological complexity within the reference. The model is recognized for its balanced proportions and the legibility of its dial, making it a favored choice among collectors seeking vintage Patek Philippe chronographs.

This particular example of the Reference 130 is distinguished by its yellow gold case, measuring 33mm in diameter. It houses a manual-winding movement, typical for chronographs of its era, and is fitted with a crystal, likely acrylic or sapphire depending on the specific production period and any subsequent servicing. The case construction and movement finishing adhere to Patek Philippe's high standards for precision and durability.

Collector interest in the Reference 130 is driven by its historical importance as an early chronograph from the brand and the rarity of certain dial and complication variations. The presence of unique characteristics, such as Breguet numerals, specific dial signatures, or the absence of a tachymeter scale, can significantly influence its appeal. The reference appeals to those who appreciate the foundational designs of Patek Philippe's chronograph lineage.

Specifications

Caliber
13'''
Case
Yellow gold
Diameter
33mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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Mike H
Sep 12, 2015

... that I shall be far from being able to apply for one. But as a dream, it is a wonderful one ! ;-))) Thanks for this great review Mark. Mike

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dr.kol
Sep 12, 2015

I will handle 5370P for the first time on the coming Friday. But I ordered it a long time ago and I expect it next year. The best recommendation was when a Patek executive said me in May that "5370P is perhaps the finest reference we have made in decades". Even the price is salty, I look forward receiving mine. And your post did not make the waiting time any easier. Best, Kari

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amanico
Sep 12, 2015

Here, which really sings to me is the: - Case: good size, proportions, not too mannered, just enough to really be appealing. - The coaxial pusher which reveals the presence of the... - Rattrapante! There are not so many in the market. But it is a magic chronographic sophistication. - The dial, with its black enamel coating and... - Its two subdials finally on a 3 / 9 line... When Patek wants, Patek is able to do it. - The applied numbers. Breguet style. Superb. - And last but not least, the deco

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gensiulia
Sep 13, 2015

although I'm not convinced about the 41mm size of the case...the watch seems to be very well balanced on the wrist (of course, for that wrist). talking on a purely aesthetic impact, the 5370P is sensational, it's gorgeous! I always had a bit of trouble accepting the decentralized registers on the latter PP complications (as well on Lange 1815, Datograph, and the recent Rolex Daytona for instance) but in this case i have to admit that it does not bother me at all, i find it very well balanced. th

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keks
Sep 13, 2015

It is a thing of pure beauty this 5370P… a dream to most of us so being able to see detailed photos and reading more about it here is great!

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Bruno.M1
Sep 13, 2015

that is a 99% perfect watch. For sure one of the best they made since 2010 Very nice dial, great case, unbelievable movement and a very good size Why 99% and not 100 ? I prefer the sundials to be perfect aligned at 3 and 9 o'clock any not a bit below And I only accept luminova hands in a robust sportswatch, not in a high end complication These 2 things aside, it if a VERY good looking watch

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