Bernhard Lederer CIC Watch Innovation
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Bernhard Lederer CIC Watch Innovation

By El Padre · Oct 4, 2023 · 28 replies
El Padre
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El Padre introduces the Bernhard Lederer Central Impulse Chronometer (CIC), a horological innovation building on the work of Breguet and George Daniels. This article delves into El Padre's firsthand experience and the technical discussion surrounding the CIC's unique escapement design, which promises unwavering accuracy under various conditions. The community explores the implications of its dual escapement wheels, individual barrels, and remontoir mechanisms.

I think most of us have heard of one of the geniuses of watchmaking - Bernhard Lederer. The guy who is behind many innovations presented by the world's best manufacturers, as well as the latest CIC - presented under his own brand - LEDERER.

 

The Central Impulse Chronometer is a system that is an evolution of Breguet's and George Daniels's approaches. The CIC features two escape wheels situated at the terminus of distinct gear trains, each equipped with its own barrel. Lederer has ingeniously redesigned the escapement functionality and architecture to ensure optimal impulses to the oscillator. Moreover, each set of escape wheels incorporates its own remontoir, a mechanism that replenishes a small spring every 10 seconds, ensuring a consistent flow of power to the escapement.

 

In comparison to conventional escapements, what distinguishes the CIC solution is its unwavering accuracy. While many classic designs may be precise under specific conditions, their accuracy tends to fluctuate with spring tension, watch position, or daily impacts. The CIC timepiece remains consistently accurate regardless of these variables, offering stability in precision under all circumstances.

 

What are your thoughts on this innovative concept and the watch itself? Do we have any proud owners of Lederer watches among us?











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FM
fmc000
Oct 4, 2023

...are there any numbers? From an independent source I mean.

FM
fmc000
Oct 4, 2023

"In comparison to conventional escapements, what distinguishes the CIC solution is its unwavering accuracy. While many classic designs may be precise under specific conditions, their accuracy tends to fluctuate with spring tension, watch position, or daily impacts. The CIC timepiece remains consistently accurate regardless of these variables, offering stability in precision under all circumstances."

SP
Spangles - Dr. Tabby
Oct 4, 2023

However, there's now at least one which is said to be running well. Hopefully, all issues have been resolved. These kind of things are very common in high-end watchmaking and usually not spoken about. I have a question about the design: The escapement requires very tight tolerances and the shock protection does not assure that these tolerances will not be exceeded in the event of a shock to the watch. So, I would advise owners to have some care in wearing (which they are likely to do in any case

JP
jp884
Oct 4, 2023

So I gave up a long time ago trying to find and purchase a "chronometer" watch that runs spot on. It should just be buy it if you like it, and are willing to drop the cashola for it. One was offered to me last year by my dealer but I just was not attracted to the watch.

CO
Cozmopak
Oct 4, 2023

I just love the feel of Rolex

EL
El Padre
Oct 5, 2023

I don't know if anyone independent verified it. Anyway, you brought up a very interesting point!

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