that example is certainly justified

Hi Moses,

I think most agree that the JLC movement draws heavily from the 1185, but the general tone of the article regarding the influence of the 1185 on all more recent vertical clutch designs was pretty over-the-top IMHO. The 1185 borrowed ideas at least as significantly from the Seiko chronograph movements as many of the more recent designs did from the 1185, and many of the "improvements" claimed to have been made over the Seiko desgns are simple incorrect or are at least misunderstandings of the technical aspects.

Let's just say I found the tone of the article to be a little too zealous with too little regard for the facts, understandable for a company magazine on some level, but disappointing nonetheless. I can't wait 'til Jeff reads this.

_john

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Letters from le Brassus & the 1185 calibre

By: Jerryuk : March 29th, 2008-09:48

The latest edition of the Blancpain magazine arrived a while back and along with the article on the new Fifty Fathoms I was interested to read the article on the 1185 chronograph movement. I was amazed to learn that several un named top Swiss manufacturer...

keep in mind that the magazine is bought and paid for by Blancpain

By: ei8htohms : March 30th, 2008-08:47

And as with all marketing literature, take it with a grain of salt. _john

Could they be suggesting, for example....

By: Moses. : March 30th, 2008-14:23

that the JLC 75x family of chronograph movements was directly "inspired" by the 1185 (i.e. JLC copied aspects of the movement without BP's approval?)

The other part of the mysterious behind the scenes goings on that I find intriguing is that certain "manufacture" houses also supply their movements to other brands, some of them very prestigious names indeed. I'm refering to the part of the market where ...

it happens all the time

By: ei8htohms : April 3rd, 2008-03:04

Hi Jerryuk, All of the "Big Three" brands (PP, AP, VC) use some movements supplied by other manufacturers. That in itself is not terribly scandalous and quite thoroughly disected and documented on the various watch discussion forums. Whether or not it is ...

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