Some thoughts

Apr 05, 2016,03:52 AM
 

 Air Command is rare , documents are scarce, it is difficult to make a solid statement on this, that said:

-Stop second has been seen on one example, not every one. If I wrote it I might have been mistaken at the time I wrote the post on the Air Command some years ago because one had it. Not having it is not a problem.

-BUT Unsigned movement, like Nicolas, that's not a good sign to me too. From this I have doubs on the legitimacy of this caliber in that watch. I would say it has been assembled recently.


Other lots are not what they are said to be.

-An easy one is the Breitling Navitimer , in the first years, the 1955 had all "small Pearl" (beaded) bezel. This bezel is from the late 50s , maybe 1960 (which fits the selling date). And that dial Version is not supremely rare.

Wether the caseback is not the original, or the bezel was changed, or it's a 1960's watch with a mistake on the caseback stamp  Happened sometimes, there is a similar story with "1953" Navitimers which are actually from the late 50s, 1960. A detailed photo of the caliber would help.


I wished Philipps scholars had done their work on every watch presented at the auction, especially the Navitimer, where documents, examples and knowledge are out there.


Francois

This message has been edited by cisco on 2016-04-05 03:55:15


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Blancpain Air Command for sale at the next Phillips auction

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 4th, 2016-13:16
An Air Command will be for sale at the next Phillips auction: "Start-Stop-Rest: 88 epic stainless steel chronographs, lot 27, May 14. I have mixed feelings regarding this specific watch. It does not come with the movement you would usually expect. As coll...  

Sorry, but for me...

 
 By: amanico : April 4th, 2016-14:05
Given the value and the mythical interest of this watch, the movement should be like this... Best, Nicolas ...  

I agree...

 
 By: Asad A Awan : April 4th, 2016-20:14
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Some thoughts

 
 By: cisco : April 5th, 2016-03:52
Air Command is rare , documents are scarce, it is difficult to make a solid statement on this, that said: -Stop second has been seen on one example, not every one. If I wrote it I might have been mistaken at the time I wrote the post on the Air Command so... 

Thanks for your input

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 5th, 2016-04:53
I had the chance to handel/test four different Air Commands over the years and they ALL had the stop second mechanism and all movements had the same engravings. I have never heard of any Air Command with the right engravings not having the stop second fea... 

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 By: cisco : April 5th, 2016-06:52
That's a great Input, I didn't think they all had it even if the patent was there. Happy to learn more about. cheers Francois

It is indeed...

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 13th, 2016-09:29
It should have a luminous triangle at the tip. Compared to the movement, it is a rather small issue

I have never seen the mythical Air Command in person.

 
 By: Briandumais : April 13th, 2016-13:56
But i know that for such an important piece something like an incorrect hand will have a big affect on value. PS: Someday i will own an Air Command!!! Brian

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 By: amanico : April 13th, 2016-14:02
When they have gone, it is too late. The last prices I've seen are prohibitive. Best of luck, Brian. Nicolas

I agree. But one can dream!

 
 By: Briandumais : April 13th, 2016-18:45
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 By: Goldenlutin : April 15th, 2016-03:24
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 By: Goldenlutin : May 14th, 2016-13:32
or maybe there is no real buyer....

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