Blancpain Air Command for sale at the next Phillips auction

Apr 04, 2016,13:16 PM
 

An Air Command will be for sale at the next Phillips auction: "Start-Stop-Rest: 88 epic stainless steel chronographs, lot 27, May 14.


I have mixed feelings regarding this specific watch. It does not come with the movement you would usually expect. As collectors know, the Air Command was not fitted with a standard VJ 222 but with a modified one. It had a specific "stop second" device, patented by Rayville/Blancpain. In addition the movement should (usually) be signed, have very specific engravings and finishings.

The catalogue discloses the fact that the movements used in AC are sometimes signed (and that the movement of the one for sale is not) and that spare parts have been sold/assembled later on. 

My question is: are there any reasonable doubts among collectors that a legitimate Air Command shall always be equipped with the specific and signed VJ movement ?

Do collectors / experts really believe that an Air Command can be considered as legitimate without this specific movement?

Of course a definitive answer/proof will be hard to provid as all relevant documents seem to have disappeared. On the other hand we know as a fact that some spare parts were around and have been assembled. It also seems established that some parts were missing (especially but not only movements) and that standard VJ222 movements had to be used in order to assemble/finish some AC.

What makes an AC, or any other vintage watch, legitimate/original? Are an original case and a dial sufficient ? What is your opinion?

As a conclusion: The Air Command is for sure an epic chronograph. But is this particular exemplar epic?

Personally I am astonished, given these uncertainties, that this particular watch made it into this very special sale with so many outstanding chronographs.

Best,

Goldenlutin






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Sorry, but for me...

 
 By: amanico : April 4th, 2016-14:05
Given the value and the mythical interest of this watch, the movement should be like this... Best, Nicolas ...  

I agree...

 
 By: Asad A Awan : April 4th, 2016-20:14
..that while very beautiful an tempting, this piece should have everything in order to be the ultimate AC. As for your questions, I do believe that parts need to be changed and repaired and I believe in fully maintained and reliable examples as true piece... 

Some thoughts

 
 By: cisco : April 5th, 2016-03:52
Air Command is rare , documents are scarce, it is difficult to make a solid statement on this, that said: -Stop second has been seen on one example, not every one. If I wrote it I might have been mistaken at the time I wrote the post on the Air Command so... 

Thanks for your input

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 5th, 2016-04:53
I had the chance to handel/test four different Air Commands over the years and they ALL had the stop second mechanism and all movements had the same engravings. I have never heard of any Air Command with the right engravings not having the stop second fea... 

Thanks or your answer !

 
 By: cisco : April 5th, 2016-06:52
That's a great Input, I didn't think they all had it even if the patent was there. Happy to learn more about. cheers Francois

It is indeed...

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 13th, 2016-09:29
It should have a luminous triangle at the tip. Compared to the movement, it is a rather small issue

I have never seen the mythical Air Command in person.

 
 By: Briandumais : April 13th, 2016-13:56
But i know that for such an important piece something like an incorrect hand will have a big affect on value. PS: Someday i will own an Air Command!!! Brian

The problem with the Air Command is my theory of the missing trains...

 
 By: amanico : April 13th, 2016-14:02
When they have gone, it is too late. The last prices I've seen are prohibitive. Best of luck, Brian. Nicolas

I agree. But one can dream!

 
 By: Briandumais : April 13th, 2016-18:45
nt

By the way, there is a very good description...

 
 By: Goldenlutin : April 15th, 2016-03:24
of the Air Command in the recently published book "Chronographs for collectors" by Joël Pynson and Sébastien Chaulmontet. The book also addresses the issue of reassembled pieces and names the criterias to determine a real Air Command. The book exists both...  

Some buyers just don't do there homework...

 
 By: Goldenlutin : May 14th, 2016-13:32
or maybe there is no real buyer....

You mean half of it ;) [nt]

 
 By: Goldenlutin : May 14th, 2016-13:56