It is much less Bad Boy, more " sweet " than the Land Rover...

Mar 12, 2021,14:47 PM
 

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Land Rover Trophy: Good or bad, for you?

 
 By: amanico : March 12th, 2021-09:59
500 HP for this 8 Cylinders version. 250 or 300 HP would have been enough for me, on that superb 4x4. Don't get me wrong, I love the Defender, it is even a dream car for me. Especially the old ones. But here, and even more at that price, I am not sure any...  

Not sure, but a few years ago I had this one...

 
 By: dedestexhes : March 12th, 2021-10:16
Cheers, Dirk ...  

LOL!

 
 By: amanico : March 12th, 2021-14:45

Not bad, not bad...

 
 By: amanico : March 12th, 2021-14:47

I'm starting to feel more for the Toyota Land Cruiser...

 
 By: patrick_y : March 12th, 2021-10:39
In Africa, a very large percentage of the safari trucks are Land Cruisers. Mostly because the safari operators have found that the Land Cruisers are much more reliable and economical to run than the Land Rover Defenders. From a capability standpoint, the ... 

You should talk to my son-in-law, he has a 1972 original

 
 By: aperna : March 12th, 2021-11:55
The thing rides like a tank ...  

Never owned a Defender but...

 
 By: myles721 : March 12th, 2021-13:18
Owned 4Runners, Jeeps driven Explorers, Expeditions Hummers etc. 2nd choice Toyota Land Cruiser...1st choice by a whisker...Toyota Tundra...off road package with Hemi option...load a couple of bags of sand and salt over the rear axle and you are unstoppab...  

No...

 
 By: myles721 : March 12th, 2021-15:00
When it comes to utility vehicles looks don’t mean a great deal. My driveway is hundreds of feet straight up like Dracula’s castle. I blew out a brand new 4 runner transmission on it and that truck was the only badass vehicle that made it.

That is astounding. My 2010 4Runner would practically climb a straight wall.

 
 By: MichaelC : March 12th, 2021-17:38
Never a single problem. I'm guessing it was not your driveway that caused the problem.

Driveway rises up to a choke point with lateral camber towards a

 
 By: myles721 : March 12th, 2021-17:47
Ten foot drop. If there is snow you can’t slow down. If you lose traction at the choke point you start to slide towards the ravine. It was there in the snow that the wheels started spinning and the transmission went...very scary. The truck is heavy enough... 

1/4" steel underbody and a small lift =

 
 By: MichaelC : March 13th, 2021-06:07
no trouble. I'll take a 4Runner over a Tundra any day off road. ...  

The flipped Ford Bronco?

 
 By: MichaelC : March 13th, 2021-07:57
That is my Friend's truck. I maintain that the suspension was far too stiff for the weight of the truck. It did not absorb and hunker down over obstacles. It stood tall. Until it flipped! ...  

😂

 
 By: myles721 : March 13th, 2021-08:03
I’m really talking about snow...I don’t discount your experience In Colorado but I have driven or seen others drive almost every 4 wheel drive vehicle up my driveway for 15 years with 1-2 feet of snow including the 4 Runner which I owned. I defer to you f... 

My 4Runner weighed almost as much as a Tundra.

 
 By: MichaelC : March 13th, 2021-08:18
With the full steel skid plates, rock rails, and some other things, I added about 500 LBs to the truck. It was traded in for a 2500 Duramax Diesel, that truck weighed over 8000 LBs. Unstoppable with good tires. Speed is fine, but try stopping after blowin...  

Wow, top shot!

 
 By: amanico : March 13th, 2021-08:20

Yes, this one! :)))

 
 By: amanico : March 13th, 2021-08:19

Impressive!

 
 By: amanico : March 12th, 2021-23:47

The Defender is a beautiful car I think, and

 
 By: Gwai : March 13th, 2021-01:13
I agree with you on the aesthetic superiority of the vintage ones, but for a defender by profession driving a Defender might be a touch too much, no? Cheers Marc

I have always wanted a Defender.

 
 By: MichaelC : March 13th, 2021-08:23
Trucky-trucks, the way they should be. We have the newer Defenders popping up around town. I like the way they look, but they are not the animals that the originals are.