With this kind of cars, I mean Volvo P1800, you see what driving a car means. YOU are the pliot, not the electronic bits of the car.

May 26, 2024,17:18 PM
 

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A piece of advice - a good starting car for Oldtimer rallying?

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-16:33
The other day my beloved daughter announced that sheโ€™d like daddy to buy an Oldtimer and enter into historical rallies with her. Now thatโ€™s truly music to my ears, and would be a great way to develop a joint hobby. Now apart from a 29 year old Volvo 850T-...  

This one:

 
 By: amanico : May 26th, 2024-16:35
My daily driver ...  

I would imagine reliability is decentโ€ฆ

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-16:37
The car also holding the record for the most achieved km of any so far ๐Ÿ˜ Driving?

Thanks for adding this!

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-17:15
Not quite sure what route to take yet, hence the question / post. Some standard routes are the Mini Cooper, the DS, the Alfa Giulia / GTV, Lancia Fulvia, MGB, Ford Escort RSโ€ฆ

I guess that would apply to all of them? ๐Ÿ˜Š

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-17:31
Which is certainly part of the appeal ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

It really is.

 
 By: amanico : May 26th, 2024-17:32

Maybe a Lancia Fulvia?

 
 By: dedestexhes : May 26th, 2024-17:24
I must admit I never drove one, but many have been converted to a more โ€œrallyโ€ oriented car. And obviously it was used in his time in real rallies .An advantage certainly is that they are still rather affordable (the basic ones). Dirk

Apparently very good!

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-17:31
The engineering was a bit different from the norm but if properly maintained the reports I have read say that they are very reliable. Not nearly at the level of later ones, which were somewhat iffier ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

If it is in a reasonable shapeโ€ฆ

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-18:04
One can protect it. But if the rust is there, itโ€™s quite probably an expensive hobby ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

Yes, too late...

 
 By: amanico : May 26th, 2024-21:28

Well the v4 is a good engine

 
 By: dedestexhes : May 26th, 2024-17:32
However, it is an Italian car, so rust certainly is an issue. But nothing that canโ€™t be fixedโ€ฆ.

+1

 
 By: amanico : May 26th, 2024-17:33

Agreed ๐Ÿ˜

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-17:33
Definitely a contender ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

That and the handling, which is supposedly really good!

 
 By: KMII : May 26th, 2024-17:29
They look pretty tasty, too ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

This is a whole world of financial pain โ€ฆ

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : May 26th, 2024-22:02
But personally, I would start withโ€ฆ The Saab 96 is ultra reliable โ€ฆ The Mini Cooper is a proven multiple winner โ€ฆ Enjoy ! ...  

Thanks for the tips ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

 
 By: KMII : May 27th, 2024-04:38
Letโ€™s see what comes out of it ๐Ÿ˜Š

Be aware ...

 
 By: bimbeano : May 27th, 2024-07:26
.. that many if not all of the cars here already mentioned have no power steering and the gap between these cars and the modern cars you're used to drive is quite big. You could also consider a 1970/80ies Mercedes for that matter. They also give a nice an... 

Was not thinking of going quite 1884 ๐Ÿ˜

 
 By: KMII : May 27th, 2024-12:05
Benz is definitely a comfortable option, and a lack of PAS is certainly a topic but depending on the weight possibly not completely tragic - a good replacement for the gym ๐Ÿ˜‰

If I may, what about an MG B (GT or convertible, but I guess GT better for extreme conditions). It is quite cheap quite reliable (for a British car !), and the fact it is British you can source all kind of spares in the UK, almost everything

 
 By: montres1 : May 27th, 2024-10:25
is available for a full rebuild in case + improvements. I guess a good way to start, and then you can still evolve later on towards something fancier and more expensive. Let us know what your choice is !

It sounds like a good option indeed!

 
 By: KMII : May 27th, 2024-12:12
Whatโ€™s your experience with the MGC as GT? Apparently not that nice originally but I heard from an MGB owner that with modern tires a lot of the downsides disappear ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿง

I have driven my parents' MG B Cabriolet a few times, and I like the "old school" driving. I don't have experience when it comes to racing though. For sure if you put on modern tires, you might have to upgrade the suspension

 
 By: montres1 : May 27th, 2024-15:58
otherwise they might suffer from the high-adherence tyres and put under pressure. That's the thing with old cars, the improved modern technology generates abnormal or extra wear and tear on other parts.

Thatโ€™s the case with modern cars as well ๐Ÿ˜

 
 By: KMII : May 27th, 2024-16:01
Certain modern performance cars kill their brakes almost instantly if you put higher performance tires on them ๐Ÿ˜‰