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and hard to imagine how you initially felt when you realised what you had in your hands and also how you could do anything differently other than to return the watch to the auction house for a refund and expect the right thing to then happen and at the very least the watch to be deposited with the Police (or lawyers) whilst the matter was investigated, but never for it to be sent back to the consignor. In retrospect I guess you would inform the Police what had happened and what action you had taken. I had a similar experience in a different line but only contacted the Police as the auction house (and consignor via them) refused to accept the item was stolen despite all of the proof I presented. In the end it turned out the Police (and manufacturer) were very much on the case and following many avenues of buying and selling very carefully until they were ready to make their move ensuring they had the ringleaders and not just the fences.

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Kudos for returning the watch.

 
By: Ruffian : December 30th, 2015-07:29
Don't know what I would have done were I in your position. I guess Antiquorum had to walk a fine line between you, Nicolas and the consigner (assuming he is a bona fide purchaser). Hence their action to return the watch to the consigner. This effectively ... 

Good to Hear From You..

 
By: hashluck : December 30th, 2015-07:34
and hard to imagine how you initially felt when you realised what you had in your hands and also how you could do anything differently other than to return the watch to the auction house for a refund and expect the right thing to then happen and at the ve... 

It is painfully clear that Antiquorum has been negligent.

 
By: Arie - Mr Orange : December 30th, 2015-07:46
And regarding a watch like that (no papers/no box???) you could almost fairly easily state that Antiquorum has been negligent on purpose? They should have known that there was something fishy (to say the least) going on with this watch. And if it really h... 

Lange not only has a registry for reported stolen watches,

 
By: TheMadDruid : December 30th, 2015-08:15
but they stated to me in an email that they regularly work with auction houses , and other buyers and sellers to confirm that a watch has, indeed, been reported stolen. In this case AQ seems not to have contacted the Manufacture. How can this be anything ... 

Wow. The extent of the reach of PuristSPro...

 
By: patrick_y : December 30th, 2015-08:33
Thank you for sharing your experience. I was in a battle with Antiquorum for years. And the reason why it dragged on for so long was because they were so poorly communicative and they took advantage of the fact that I did not live nearby. They ignored my ... 

Never assume.

 
By: patrick_y : December 30th, 2015-08:40
Never assume anything. I'm not old enough to have have the wisdom of experience yet. But with the little experience I have had, I do know make no assumptions and as few presumptions as possible. Never operate based on an assumption if you don't have to.

Thanks for taking the time to share your sad experience with Antiquorum about that Lange.

 
By: amanico : December 30th, 2015-10:56
... Despite the painful experience of a lost dream. I feel for you. But at least your rights have been preserved. Curious to see that you had to insist. Another " funny " detail " is that, IF Aq thought that they were in their right, they would never have... 

Actions speak louder than words...

 
By: Tim Jackson : December 30th, 2015-11:13
I'm afraid Antiquorum's true colors are on display here. Shame on them. Nico, I hope there is a good solution, and I'm glad that this forum has provided a place where light is able to be focused on them. Systemic problem methinks...at the very least negli... 

Now the only two left who still need to share their sides of this story are (a) the consignor (the current possesor of Nico's stolen watch) and (b) Antiquorum...

 
By: CR : December 30th, 2015-17:06
Thanks for posting your side of this. I truly hope that some disgruntled Antiquorum employee with a conscience will contact Nico and discreetly provide him with the name and contact information of the consignor. I also hope that you soon find a legitimate... 

You will never hear Antiquorum's response

 
By: TS1987 : December 31st, 2015-05:34
or the consignor's. It is well known that AQ have a lot to answer for as it is not the first time this has happened. Don't hold your breath waiting.

Thank you Kha1400

 
By: sc16 : December 30th, 2015-18:37
for sharing your experience in this matter and for being that honest and ethical guy! Too bad that Nicolas did not receive the watch back, as per your and Nicolas' thought process it would happen…

Thank you for your explanation of your actions and experience. [nt]

 
By: whit : December 31st, 2015-06:57
Now we know the plot, the storyline, and now waiting for the final chapter. I am hoping and wishing for a happy ending.