I don't want to labour this point if there is no interest but..

Feb 25, 2014,02:06 AM
 

..I have some more photos of the medallions.


First a mid 1960s Dennsion made 168.(5)004 hidden crown Connie


and a late 1950s Swiss cased  by SERVA


Both appear to be medallions which are cast into the caseback and with a machined groove to finish off

Then in the late 1960s/early 1970s the medallion seems to have changed

A late 1960s 168.(5)004 case by Shackman - note lack of groove


and an early 1970s 168.(5)004 OWC sourced case


So it would appear that the cast medallion could have changed to a stamped insert which was soldered into place.

I would be interested in any comments

Cheers

Andrew

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Constellation Medallions

 
By: aroma : February 22nd, 2014-02:39
Hi All, I know that with the stainless steel Constellations, the medallion is stamped into the caseback and that with gold-capped versions there is a separate gold medallion stuck into the recess - but I wasn't aware that this also applied to solid 18kt g...  

I would need more pictures to comment...

 
By: gatorcpa : February 23rd, 2014-18:25
... like the inside of the caseback, movement and dial shots. I agree that solid gold Constellations generally has the observatory struck into the case, rather than a medallion as used with gold-capped and early steel cases. Something about that case just... 

I did just see a UK cased...

 
By: gatorcpa : February 23rd, 2014-19:00
...18K gold Constellation that looks like it may have had a gold medallion set into the back: The reference is seen below: I'm not familiar with these UK made gold cases, other than I know they exist. More research is still needed. gatorcpa ...  

Further Photos............

 
By: aroma : February 24th, 2014-01:36
Hi Gatorcpa, The example I showed is indeed the same model (probably the same year - 1968) as your one. It's a Shackman cased 168.(5)004 and here are some more pictures:- FYI, Omega used to send bare movements to the UK for casing and their default casema...  

For the record...

 
By: gatorcpa : February 24th, 2014-19:52
...I swiped those photos from the web. For research purposes only, of course. Sometimes, even a blind squirrel can find an acorn. gatorcpa

I don't want to labour this point if there is no interest but..

 
By: aroma : February 25th, 2014-02:06
..I have some more photos of the medallions. First a mid 1960s Dennsion made 168.(5)004 hidden crown Connie and a late 1950s Swiss cased by SERVA Both appear to be medallions which are cast into the caseback and with a machined groove to finish off Then i...  

All three of my steel Connies have the applied . . .

 
By: Dr No : February 25th, 2014-14:28
. . . Observatory, and they're cal 504/505 models made prior to 1960. Here's an image of a '57 steel Connie caseback (not mine, unfortunately) . . . [image credit: Dr No / watch credit: Jack K] . . . which shows an applied medallion. Your question pertain...  

Finally, a couple of Swiss cased Constellations...

 
By: aroma : February 28th, 2014-02:02
.... Both are late 1960s and cal 564 Constellations in solid 18kt gold - I'm not sure who the casemaker was but they are both of Swiss manufacture:- Firstly a 168.005 Dogleg case and secondly, a hidden crown 168.004 case Both of these 18kt Swiss cases see...  

medallions

 
By: MightyPir : February 25th, 2014-03:20
The earlier steel Constellations also had the medallion stuck or glued in. My grandfather's 1953 bumper has a press on back with one such medallion which is gold colored. I think it was sometime in the mid 60s that they changed over to a molded back.

it looks like you have your answer Andrew

 
By: G99 : February 26th, 2014-12:11
i looks to me as if Shackman used a stamped medallion they applied to the caseback. i'm only going on what i've seen from this post of course. getting a replacement may be impossible unless you can get a gold one made for a gold capped connie and apply it... 

Hi Graham, The trouble with using a medallion from...

 
By: aroma : February 27th, 2014-05:38
... a gold capped example is that the medallions are of a different design - the observatory is plain with no 'bricks' and the stars are different. Desmond has a very interesting essay on his blog about the different medallions. I need to see a few more e... 

very interesting subject Andrew, i...

 
By: G99 : February 27th, 2014-06:48
very interesting subject Andrew, i wish you luck with your endeavours. i'll just not buy one with a medallion missing unless i get a display back made for it :) best G