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Take care! Not every P15 is as watertight as HSTE's.
Encouraged by the 10bar rating and reassured by HSTE's experience I took myP15 into the water yesterday.
It did bot go deeper than half a meter, no heavy swimming, no plunging into the water, crown and pushers were left untouched.
Today morning I found some moisture behind the crystal. 
So before you expose yours to water I would recommend to have its watertightness explicitly checked, even if it is new
That mine was unworn and factory new until two weeks ago was obviously not enough to ensure its integrity.
When I get home again I will have to figure out how to handle the warranty thing without an AD involved.
Best, Martin
Take care! Not every P15 is as watertight as HSTE's.
Encouraged by the 10bar rating and reassured by HSTE\'s experience I took myP15 into the water yesterday. It did bot go deeper than half a meter, no heavy swimming, no plunging into the water, crown and pushers were left untouched. Today morning I found s...
Of course NOT
you should be able to snorkel with it without any hesitation. 100m is 100m.
Things happen.
This things happen, even with brand new dive watches. But it leaves the bitter taste since it's brand new
Yeah, I have been in watches for long enough now to be shocked.
But each time you wonder if it was insufficient quality control or if something happened afterwards.
That's very sad to see, Martin and i hope Zenith will take good care of this
I have the principle to not take watches for swimming. Period. I often see people in pools with 25-30k watches that have a nominal 30m WR, something that is just okay for light rain. Unless it is a Diver watch with screwed-in crown and min 300m WR, I woul...
Hi CC, then what is the idea of a 10 bar rated watch?
It means "Good for anything except scuba/apnoe diving.". I understand your point of going out of harms way and to avoid trouble e.g. by only submerging real dive watches. On the other hand I am not willing to make it that easy to the manufacturers. If the...
I'm not trying to justify what happened nor is it your fault
I fully agree. Even if they put 30m WR on it, it should actually withstand some swimming. Even by manufacturer guideline, a 100m WR is good for swimming, so clearly a problem with Zenith. It was just me personally, I don't really need a watch when swimmin...
Hi, CC, it seems we are totally d'accord about the specs.
The only difference is the way we handle them. I enjoy taking the to the water and using them for what they were made. But your approach is absolutely understandable too. Best, Martin
Although I have the same principal as CC's regarding the way of handling watches,
I also fully agree and stand with your position of "making the manufacturer to deliver."
Not with a watch rated 100m.
100m for a watch is not 100m diving depth but 100m static water column corresponding to 10 bar water pressure. The problem is that 10 bar can be reached at shallow depths by e.g. plunging into the water or by fast movements of the arm. No,idea which brill...
Well, of course they need an argument to sell the higher specs as well!
50 years ago most of the diving watches were only resistant to 100m!!! They went diving with it - I mean REAL diving! NO - This watch must withstand any water activities incl. at least light diving. No question about that...
I will not stop enjoying it for the time being.
Far away from hone I cannot do much now apart from drying and wearing it. Thanks for your support! Best, Martin
Oooh my, I guess I would freak out completely .....
in the end, todays watches don't seem to swim that good anymore.. I don't even dare to swim with my Panerai's any longer. I hope for the best outcome for you.
I am over freaking out when a watch fails for the first time.
These tiny fragile mechanisms are so complex that failure can happen. What counts to me is the way a manufacturer deals with it when it happens. It is my first Zenith. Let's see how they will perform. Best, Martin
Hmmm, if it was that easy then this thread should not be existing.
Next to that they will have to check if the moisture/water did not have any undesired effects on the movement etc.
Moisture in watch "emergency"
Last year on holiday in the Caribbean and wearing one of my vintage watches I was caught in an unexpected, massive storm on a small but speeding ferry between islands. There was little shelter on board the ferry with the rain and wind sheeting through the...
Thank you Clive for sharing your experiences and tour way to handle it.
You reminded me to pull out the crown for drying it. How could I be so stupid to forget? Maybe it helps the drying process a little. As the watch is new I will not open it but leave that to the experts. Best, Martin
Wohoow! This is bad news! Thanks for sharing and sorry if I inspired you to take it afloat!
I am a bit shocked. It is clear that a 30m should not be taken to active swimming, junping into water etc BUT a brand new, 100m-labeled world class brand watch should withstand a quiet 0.5m "dive" in my view. But now we are all warned! Cheers, HSTE
Dear HSTE, please rest at ease.
I am not putting any blame in you. Nothing, rien, niente, nada. As I answered to your post I had decided to take it as a vacation watch before, which includes getting it wet. When I wrote reassured by your post I only meant that your P15 was confirming wh...
I am so sorry to see this, my friend. And after such a long wait.
PM if I can help, but probably best to leave to specialists.
Not a big thing but one that myst not happen.
Thanks for your offer I will see to get it dried and then have it checked when back home. Only help I will need will be by the P15 team to tell me about the best way to contact Zenith because my AD is not a Zenith contractor. Thank you my friend, Martin
That it does.
Which we have known for generations, but have selfishly kept to ourselves.
Bummer :(
That shouldn't have happened It's under warranty so all will end well Just don't do it again Keep us posted D
Thanks, Mr. D.
I read that like CC you don't take your watches to water. It is the first time that 10bar watch fails on me. The G.O. Seventies Chrono did better. Most important thing will be now that Zenith will handle it properly. More important than JCB's signature on...
True my friend watches and water...somehow I don't believe in that :)
Never took any watch to any water even not under shower or hand washing Just my OCD All will end well Cheers D
Hello Martin! I regret to read about this bad experience with your P15 watch. I´m sure the Zenith guarantee will take care...
... of this problem and fix the watch water resistance issue. Your experience brings back the theme of WR in our watches and what we should expect about our timepieces. I like to be able to bring my watches for a swim, and of course I expect a timepiece w...
Thank you very much, Abel.
It takes more than that to spoil a watch to me. Especially if it is a special one like this. As long as they sort out the issue like this properly and in decent time everything will be fine. Warmest regards, Martin
Agree Martin. Most probably there is no damage made. But it can be interesting to check the interior to check everything is ok and the gaskets. Though I like...
... to take my watches to the pool or sea, I´m rather concerned with taking my chronos to water even those designed as diving chronos. As you well say if the watch keeps working perfectly most probably nothing serious happened. All the best, Abel.
A thorough check is absolutely the thing to be done now.
Thank you, Abel, for your comments.
Would not have happened if you had not cowardly ended the contest ;-)
Then I would have had my proven Sport Evo on the wrist. Best, Martin
Here is hope the Zenith's enthusiasm down not and at the cash desk.
Thank you very much, Martin
I was not aware of the difference between 20 bar and 20 bar divers.
Need to check out what you posted about new ISO classifications. Thanks for the info, Martin
Oh man.... that hurts
Hope the zenith team is near to where you are and able to fix it quickly. Moisture inside a watch even with silicon stuff, not a good match up. Cheers PAt
Thanks Patrick!
I think that will have to wait until I will be back home. Fortunately it was not too much water that intruded. Best, Martin
I am very sorry for you Martin, but Zenith will handle it professionally.
I have no doubts. Some of the replies are quite dramatic, but you are on top of it. Believe me, I know the feeling of getting the "one" that fails, but comparing this to the catastrophic failure of my Montblanc 1858, I believe you are in good hands. And y...
Dear Michael, thank for your word of encouragement.
II have followed Th e story of your Montblanc and it left me speechless. Even if Montblanc more or less purchased their watch business they should know from their high level fountain pen business how to treat a customer. I have been through worse things t...
Ugh sorry to see this
As a rule I won't swim with any chronograph unless it has screw down pushers.
Thank you!
But screw down pushers or not. It was not me who rated the watch 10bar water resistant. If it was not brand new I would have been more careful because gaskets tend to wear out over time. But it is brand new and - one would assume - factory tested. Best, M...
I agree
It's just a personal thing with me. I'm just skeptical that any chronograph is water resistant if submerged, no matter what the manufacturer says.
And maybe you are right.
I remember wondering why JLC equipped the Master Compressor line wth these so called "compressor keys" only to rate the watches 10bar then instead of the 20bar one would have expected. Either the keys were a marketing/design gimmick or they were a technic...
Wow, Martin, I really feel with you - this should not happen and I wonder how this watch ever passed the WR testing...
Generally, I would guess that any watch rated for 30m should withstand any swimming and even snorkeling and light diving. The most critical moments are indeed those close to the surface of the water. Soon thereafter the pressure of the water column will c...
Thank you very much Magnus for your directions and your offer to help.
I will let you know in due time how I decided to proceed. Currently I am abroad like you and there is no need to hurry at this moment. If the CP2 was indeed rated 30m then I could and would not complain as 30m qualifies for hashing hands or exposure to ra...
Good luck, Martin,...
... with getting that fixed quickly! I would expect Zenith to organize pick-up of the watch and take care of it with priority, also as a sign of their repect to puristspro and the buyers of this very special watch. Fingers crossed! Cheers Henrik
Thank you, Henrik, for your encouragement.
We will see, now that two key players of the project seem to have left Zenith. I have no personal experience with the company, but I am always open to pleasant surprises. Best, Martin
That's really weird for a 100m rated watch!
I mean how did the watch even pass the WR test? Unless they didn't even test it. Who knows? That's one of the reasons I always keep all of my watches away from water. Keep us posted please and sorry again for the bad news. Laurent.
I have no idea either how it would happen.
I am far from suggesting that Zenith did not test it. But I am not aware of any event either that might have compromised its integrity as long as it has been in my possession. Except pushing the pushers and pulling the crown for setting the time that is. ...
Man made does not mean "flawless"
Hi Martin, sorry to hear from your problem. Mine had also an issue. The crown did not catch properly when I was winding the watch manually. It was fixed at an authorised dealer within two days. I am sure yours will be fixed the same way quick and to your ...
Thanks for the encouraging example, Moritz
And you are right. Man made includes the chance of error or flaws. Sometimes minor flaws are not even bad because you can learn from how a company/manufacturer treats its customers in after sales service. A make it or break it factor for me. Thanks again ...
this watch was never intended to be used in the water
Good luck with the warranty and repair. If you wanted a really water resistant chrono with fully water resistant pushers then you have the semaster professional 300 chrono and the breitling chronomat which has them as well. I don't know if your warranty w...
Hi George, I respectfully disagree.
The original Cairelli CP 2 was certainty made to be used in the skies and not in the water. The re-edition however is rated 100m water resistant which qualifies it for swimming and skin diving but not for scuba diving. Submerging it to 50cm is within the ...
Look, its rated for 100m water resistant. It that means that its not intended to be used in water...
this would mean a Seamaster Professional with its 300m can be rinsed only. So if manufacturers claim a water proofness they have to deliver. As simple as that. Best, Magnus
Surprising,
and it kind of answers my recent situation of finding a tiny speck of rust on the regulating stud of the balance cock in my EP. It definitely was not present when new, and like some of our fellow Purists, I do not subject my watches to excessive moisture ...
