I appreciated your reply, I wish too that I was born earlier that I was so that I could appreciate cheap gasoline and run countless quarter miles on Woodward Avenue during the week end

Oct 01, 2017,08:38 AM
 

1) Yes on that we agree. For me what makes something unreliable is the fact that you have to baby it and overtake care of it and because it isn't made to be used in normal or harsh conditions or that it is prone to malfunction after a few months of use.
2) I know that all 986 and 987 Boxsters use the M96, a water-cooled, horizontally opposed ("flat"), six-cylinder engine. It was Porsche's first water-cooled non-front engine. In the Boxster, it is placed mid-engine, while in the 911, rear-engine. The flat, mid-engine layout provides a low center of gravity, near-perfect weight distribution, and neutral handling. The engines had a number of failures, resulting in cracked or slipped cylinder liners, which were resolved by a minor redesign and better control of the casting process in late 1999. A failure for these early engines was a spate of porous engine blocks, as the manufacturer had difficulty in the casting process. In addition to causing problems with coolant and oil systems mingling fluids, it also resulted in Porsche's decision to repair faulty engines by boring out the cast sleeves on the cylinders where defects were noted in production and inserting new sleeves rather than scrapping the engine block. Normally, the cylinder walls are cast at the same time as the rest of the engine, this being the reason for adopting the casting technology.
3) Sure the weber carburettors were very popular among italian supercar manufacturers like Ferrari and Lambo, but also with Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, BMW, Chrysler, Fiat, Ford, Lancia, Lotus, Maserati, Morgan, Porsche, Renault, Triumph and Volkswagen. Except in canam racing most of the engines especially the zl 1 engine powering the mac laren m8 and the chaparral were using a hillborn injection, in transam and in nascar racing Holley, Rochester and Carter brands of carburettors dominated the scene.In Lemans and Group 5 racing back then especially with the 917, Porsche featured a new 4.5-litre air-cooled engine designed by Mezger, which was a combination of 2 of Porsche's 2.25L flat-6 engines used in previous racing cars. The 'Type 912' engine featured a 180ยฐ flat-12 cylinder layout, twin overhead camshafts driven from centrally mounted gears and twin spark plugs fed from two distributors.The large horizontally mounted cooling fan was also driven from centrally mounted gears. The longitudinally mounted gearbox was designed to take a set of four or five gears.More insane than that was the 917/30 which was used for Can Am. The 917/30 was the most powerful sports car racer ever built and raced. The 5.374-litre 12 cylinder (90.0 x 70.4 mm) twin-turbocharged engine could produce 1,580 bhp (1,180 kW) in qualifying tune with twin turbochargers run up to full boost, 39 psi (2.7 bar), though it usually raced with around 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 7,800 rpm to preserve the engine. Weighing 1,800 lb (820 kg), giving it a power to weight of 1967.36 bhp/tonne in qualifying tuneand 1369.68 bhp/tonne in race tune. The 917/30 dominated the Can-Am series during the 1973 season. The 917 was also the only championship winning car in Can Am not to be powered by the Chevrolet ZL1 Aluminium engine.This variant, the final official reiteration of the 917, is perhaps the most powerful sports racing car to have ever existed. With all new bodywork and the twin turbocharged engine being bored out to 5.4 liters giving it 1100โ€“1580 horsepower,depending on boost. These cars were so unbeatable that it was known for killing the Can-Am series's popularity in the United States. Six still exist, (one is a new build from parts)
4)The step brother of my uncle who lives in Lausanne owned for a brief period an Espada series II from 1970 till 1975, he told me the reason why he disliked the car this much and why he ended up selling it. Too many complications when fine tuning the carbs every 6 months, the power steering wasn't very responsive according to him and the girling brakes lacked real stopping power when braking at over 70mph (he nearly killed himself on a wet road during a trip in 1973 but luckily he had good driving skills (he used the parking brake to stop the car in emergency)but also God was with him that day). About Maserati, a close friend of my father used to own one, a 1969 Quattroporte series II 4700 but he ruined himself financially with the car 's maintenance and ended in a painful divorce after having owned it for a while.
I have never had the chance to own a Lambo or a Maserati nor to drive one.In all honesty, I am not that fortunate to buy one nor pay the maintenance for one. I live according to my financial means. And same policy as it is for buying watches, I never overestimate my purchasing power because there are much important priorities than cars or watches in life.
Have a good evening

Best regards

Georges


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Car porn

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-12:43
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Wow, what is the source? [nt]

 
 By: dedestexhes : September 29th, 2017-12:50

Porn indeed!!!!

 
 By: Julian C : September 29th, 2017-12:57
Amazing

The Grand (Porn) Tour!

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 29th, 2017-13:19
I take the red one. I suppose you have already chosen the purple one to match your Sarpaneva? ๐Ÿ˜‰ Best wishes Alkiro

The orange for me please [nt]

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-13:38

A good thing about THIS porn...

 
 By: marcelo : September 29th, 2017-13:27
...is that it works as a magnet for the OTHER porn.

Marcelo, You Are Cracking Me Up...

 
 By: elliot55 : September 29th, 2017-13:38
... Right now. This is magnet porn. - Scott

HAHAHA!!! I'm glad I enojoyed it Scott!

 
 By: marcelo : September 29th, 2017-16:48
Some days I am truly inspired, but today should not be one, given the news I got that my (I would you an adjective here, but...) salary won't rise.

Damn Portuguese corrector!

 
 By: marcelo : October 1st, 2017-07:21
I meant you and... Some days I am truly inspired, but today should not be one, given the news I got that my (I would USE an adjective here, but...) salary won't rise.

I Think I Know...

 
 By: elliot55 : October 1st, 2017-18:30
... What you mean.

And road side assistance ๐Ÿ˜ [nt]

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-14:02

Lambo Factory Roadside Assistance

 
 By: cazalea : September 29th, 2017-15:33
Somebody called for breakdown assistance? You have a problem with your car, sir? she asked, hitching up her drawers. Yes, I am an expert diagnostician. What seems to be the problem? Oh, you are overheating? Ooh, that seat is low! ...  

Ha! [nt]

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-16:39

I did! I did!!!

 
 By: marcelo : September 29th, 2017-19:03
HAHAHA!!!

Watch the opening credits of "The Italian Job" from 1969. [nt]

 
 By: brauner : September 29th, 2017-14:16
With a song "On Days Like These" from Matt Monro.

I know

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-14:35
Love that song btw! Very nostalgic

It reminds me of Jay Leno's complaint

 
 By: nowhere man : September 29th, 2017-15:07
that "I didn't get any sympathy when I backed my red Miura into my yellow Miura."

LOL [nt]

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 29th, 2017-15:19

I didn't get any sympathy when I backed my Lotus Elan into my Honda Insight

 
 By: cazalea : September 29th, 2017-16:01
thus we can surmize that the world in general (and a local neighborhood or spouse, specifically) is curiously unsympathetic! Cazalea

Bahahahahaha ๐Ÿ˜Š [nt]

 
 By: ThomasM : September 30th, 2017-07:00

Concorso Italiano?

 
 By: patrick_y : September 29th, 2017-16:15
My favorite is the green one.

Yellow one please, plus.....

 
 By: nomadgiles : September 30th, 2017-02:22
.....at least two others for spare parts ;-) Fantastic cars - thanks for the post. Best, Giles.

Lambos, especially early Lambos, definitely had their flaws...

 
 By: ThomasM : September 30th, 2017-06:59
And those of us who appreciate and love them do so despite those flaws. Same with Ferraris, Alfas, MOPAR Ford and Chevy and even (gasp) MB BMW and dont get me started on period Audis... American muscle cars from the 60's and 70's couldn't take curves wort... 

Don't get me wrong I do like some italian cars such as the 365 gtb4, the 512BB, the maserati ghibli, the maserati merak and of course the bizzarini 5300 which were some of the finest italian cars of the era

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : September 30th, 2017-10:51
ever made. BMW,I know a friend of my uncle who had a 3.0 CSL for a period of 10 years, he always complained of poor handling of the car in wet and conditions but also the engine needing an extra fine tuning every 6 months due to carburettors but also one ... 

ok part II of my reply while I couldn't edit properly and correctly in due time

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : September 30th, 2017-11:48
Road test by Car & track of the 1968 Hurst Olds with 455 Road test by Car & track of the 1971 Oldmosbile Delta 88 with 455 I do like italian cars for some of them and for german cars, I like more the ones from the 80's-early 00s. We will as usual ... 

Georges, you dont need to apologize for holding different opinions "from the majority"

 
 By: ThomasM : September 30th, 2017-15:21
Hi, Georges, As you know, all opinions and points of view are welcome here, so long as they are respectfully presented. But we are very alert to crusades, both pro and con, perpetuation of myths, especially if the reality is known here but not so widely k... 

the miura is a magnifisicently designed car and the miura sv was the best version of the miura ever made.I suppose that the modifications made by Audi to Lambo made things better

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : September 30th, 2017-16:12
From the late 50's to the early 70's the best handling luxury sedans made in the USA were the imperial crown lebaron sedans for these reasons: -the torsion quiet ride featuring semi elliptic heavy duty leaf springs in the rear with rear torsion bar with s... 

Let's stick to the points you made specifically in this sub-thread

 
 By: ThomasM : September 30th, 2017-17:42
"...these cars are mechanically unreliable and absolute rustbuckets" Hi Georges, How are Miuras mechanically unreliable, vis a vis other highly tuned high strung high performance cars pf the period? Let's start out with baselines, I am neither agreeing no... 

On Miuras, the multiple carburettors (generally 4 WBER IDL40 3bbl Carburetors) needed regularly fine tuning but also the design of the fuel supply was however imperfect, the car being known for a fire hazard of the engine compartment,

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : October 1st, 2017-02:00
due to combustion (due to the heat of the exhaust manifolds) escaping from the carburetors in the event of blockage of the floaters in the low position. Other thing to consider, Lamborghini formed the engine and gearbox in one casting. Its shared lubricat... 

Thank you, Georges, great read; made me nostalgic. You also confirmed my point...

 
 By: ThomasM : October 1st, 2017-05:20
Rushing out for a 630a drive group meet up, will try to revisit this in more detail later, but in brief - 1. Yes, earlier drivetrain (engine and transmission) lubrication sharing was not ideal. Not really a practical problem during most normal driving, bu... 

I appreciated your reply, I wish too that I was born earlier that I was so that I could appreciate cheap gasoline and run countless quarter miles on Woodward Avenue during the week end

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : October 1st, 2017-08:38
1) Yes on that we agree. For me what makes something unreliable is the fact that you have to baby it and overtake care of it and because it isn't made to be used in normal or harsh conditions or that it is prone to malfunction after a few months of use. 2... 

Stunning...

 
 By: ThomasM : September 30th, 2017-06:52
I sometimes feel that, during an exotic car gathering, too many all together at once is a bit like being forced to eat a 12 course meal with truffles and foie gras in every course - satiety or worse. But with the wild and different colors, there is enough... 

Being there would make for an awesome day.

 
 By: JerryW : September 30th, 2017-14:14
Great photo.

Yes this picture is sick [nt]

 
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