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Thanks!
Coming from you, its an honour!
But the problem is more of a catch-22 than anything. The more information put out there about the pieces, the history, and how to spot fakes, the more 'educated' their sellers become. Looking at some postings on the bay, you can see that some sellers even make it a point to point-out the ampersand, the "Swiss", and other indicators.
The truth is that the ultimate fool-proof test is to check the numbers out with Vacheron, b/c the way I see it, some questionable pieces are becoming way too good - I mean only this month we know what happened at an auctioneer regarding a particular triple date model. But to be honest, if someone is competent enough to look for a product online, I sure hope that they are smart enough to ask about it because the bottom line is that if it is too much of a good deal chances are its a fake. In a nutshell, being fooled by a fake is not an excuse with all the information available (or one would think!) and especially with people like you and Bill and others both here and at the Hour Lounge who always try to help.
As for the fake reduction idea, we can only try to do what we can 
Best,
Walid
Fleabay Alert
The model featured is a 1935 Jubilee wrist watch issued to commemorate 150 years of V&C history (at the time it was believed their patrimony began in 1785). The Great Depression had severely strained the Manufacture so this limited series was constructed ...
3 red flags
Yes!!! I quite like these exercises: 1. The Roman numerals: I have seen a number of variations on this model, but not with Roman numerals. In any case, if it were to follow V&C trends the numerals would most likely be at 12,3,6, and 9 with markers on ...
The printing details
1) The Vacheron & Constantin signature is incorrect 2) The dividing of the subseconds into quadrants is wrong 3) Swiss Made is at least one word too many.
Congratulations to both!
Yes, indeed, all the relevant points were covered very well. Bill is an old hand at spotting these, and Walid I'm so pleased that you were able to find the references that led to such astute observations! Perhaps some day we can greatly reduce the amount ...
Thanks!
Coming from you, its an honour! But the problem is more of a catch-22 than anything. The more information put out there about the pieces, the history, and how to spot fakes, the more 'educated' their sellers become. Looking at some postings on the bay, yo...
Great ideas, but of course...
a numbers check on this piece wouldn't reveal anything about the dial. The other issue of franken watches with cobbled parts from JLC and V&C ebauches can also fool an archival records check as long as they've retained the part with the legit serial n...
Redial
Yep, the redial should have been pointed out. And yes, it is an expert buyer/seller, who should know better. The hands, crown and case look pretty good though. Not worth the asking price, but not the most overpriced V&C on the bay for sure. I just saw...
the original 1935 Jubilee model actually had the seconds at 9!
same pendant movement as the ones pictures but crown placed at 3 which consequently rotates the seconds at 9. This watch inspired the layout of the Patrimony Traditionnelle automatic....
Cool! Any more info...
Alex, was there actually 150 examples of that version with seconds at 9 o'clock? Any special engraving?
Found a reference Alex
Pg 126 of Cologni's Secrets of Vacheron Constantin tells this story, which I've partially excerpted here... ...Time seemed to smile on Vacheron Constantin in 1935, which everyone believed would be the last of the dark years. In that year the firm, which s...
Hi Dean, I don't have production numbers but 150 for the time seems
huge! I don't have info on case back inscriptiins either...sorry :-(