when opposites attract...

Dec 03, 2008,13:36 PM



Indeed an interesting interview... 


Excuse the lack of but I have several questions after reading . Early into the interview Rolf expressed his vehement passion towards the destruction of grey market.

1st what exactly is "grey market" ?  And second is there any similitude to the "grey market" to Rolf's description of monobrands, etc here:

SJX: Speaking of retailers, what do you think of the grey market?  

RWS: We fight the grey market.

Why arent the grey market participants considered "new projects", with "no income coming in" ?

I mean its just one sided to defend one and not the other without logical explanation is not so?

Dont "grey market" participants essentially purchase pieces at or around the same discount as the creditworthy contract retailers?

RWS:  Even in the monobrand boutiques, we let retailers run it. When we run it ourselves, we let retailers borrow the watch from the boutique [to show customers], just like in Hong Kong.

Sounds like grey market consignments to me?

I want to comprehend and engage intelligently about this matter, and not just from an overbearing competitive marketing standpoint either.

The monobrand boutique as mentioned in the interview is same story for grey market except when they can afford $200,000 billboard?

Just stop putting your foot in your mouth Rolf and say what everyone else is afraid to say, its all about money!! since money makes a good image, cost of course.

We all know the grey market dealer who can actually produce 100% of the time usually sell us a watch either the retail doesnt have or doesnt have at discount.

SO who should be punished, oh wait I know the answer, the smalltime seller, until he/she becomes profitable enough to afford $200,000 billboard??


All I know is that in most retailers I have purchased from, mainly Patek, I only feel the pressing of the shop/brand owners to cover their costs, pay employess, keep electrics on to do business while I am happy to walk away with my new found love in time.  The few grey market friends I have manage to make over the years are decent partners who may deserve just a spec of respect from the rest of us.... or at least just me.




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Interview with Rolf W. Schnyder of Ulysse Nardin

 By: SJX : November 30th, 2008-04:50
Interview with Rolf W. Schnyder By Su JiaXian © November 2008 Rolf Willy Schnyder first came to Asia in 1958, when he got a job with Swiss trading firm Diethelm in Bangkok. After a two month journey by ship from Genoa, he arrived in Bangkok and was appoin...  

Part II of Rolf W. Schnyder interview

 By: SJX : November 30th, 2008-04:51
Interview with Rolf W. Schnyder Part II By Su JiaXian © November 2008 SJX: What do you think of the watch press nowadays? There are so many magazines, on the internet, everywhere. RWS: Far too many. Frankly many of these magazines are just there to make m...  

It was a great read, SJX!

 By: amanico : November 30th, 2008-05:47

Sonata Rolf

 By: MTF : November 30th, 2008-06:33
Thanks SJX and Rolf for the interview. The Sonata is also special to Rolf because the funky see-through hands were at his suggestion. At the beginning, they seemed a bit freaky but eventually, people got used to the better visibility. I remember the first... 

I always thought the Sonata was an ugly watch

 By: SJX : November 30th, 2008-06:35
and I still do. BUT I think the silicium Sonata in white gold as on Rolf's wrist, looks terrific. For some reason the grey and blue colours work perfectly despite the awful hands (sorry Mr Schnyder). This is the only Sonata I would wear. - SJX

My God! I own both the PC and the Sonata with these Hands! LOLOL

 By: amanico : November 30th, 2008-06:58
This message has been edited by amanico on 2008-11-30 06:58:51

You must trade in for a silicium Sonata and ask Rolf to make a silicium QP

 By: SJX : November 30th, 2008-07:06
The silicium dial looks amazing. I thought it would look tacky and cheap but the colour and reflectiveness of the material look terrific. Don't worry amanico, even though you own two watches with those awful hands, I know you have excellent taste because ... 

Naaah...I keep them! LOL

 By: amanico : November 30th, 2008-07:11

Hi Melvyn, do you mean this PC?

 By: AV : December 1st, 2008-02:12
Photo a bit dated, but watch is still in my happy hands. Don't you just love those hands, which is why I wanted it so badly. Great interview and wishing much continued success to Rolf and everyone at UN....  

Great read

 By: Massi : December 1st, 2008-03:28

Another one is series of many

 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : November 30th, 2008-08:12

Very informative interview SJX!

 By: AnthonyTsai : November 30th, 2008-09:42
Thanks very much for this great interview, and it was very interesting to hear Mr Schnyder's stories. What did Rolf mean when he said the dial on his Sonata was made of silicium? Did he mean the entire dial? Or just some of the cut out parts of the dial s...  

Only centre portion is made of silicon

 By: SJX : November 30th, 2008-23:24
It looks slightly brown in the photo due to its high reflectiveness, but in actual fact it is the purplish-blue colour of silicon. - SJX

K thanks for the info [nt]

 By: AnthonyTsai : December 1st, 2008-08:36