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Not sure what the point is

 

But it seems I really did rub you the wrong way. In hindsight, these are enthusiast forums and passions run high, I should have considered that before describing the Pepsi so harshly, my apologies to you sir if that upset you.

That aside, this particular GS is not meant as a competitor to the Pepsi, that would probably be this watch:

https://youtu.be/B6fM4DyRPB8
The comparison is a good one.

Regarding the size, this particular model compares to my Deep Sea lug to lug more so the Pepsi.

Regarding the finishing quality, my point was not meant to describe the amount of shine, rather the polishing quality. If you do get to experience this or any other GS you will notice the polished portions have a true mirror reflection whereas Rolex tool watches such as the Pepsi have a distorted image. Both models have brushed portions, the GS has a finer hand finished grain that I have not seen on any watch below 20k.

The bezel on the GS is luminous, and asymmetrical to indicate actual AM/PM. This is a polarizing aspect of the watch that I am still undecided on myself. The Pepsi bezel is the best in the business no doubt, especially with the platinum adding a touch of luxury ( even if it’s not matched with the case)

Overall this is not an apples to apples comparison, but in my perspective the GS offers more per dollar than any other luxury watch, not unlike a Lexus, whereas an Audi will always have more character. Different strokes...

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Blown away by Grand Seiko

 
By: afaleh : July 1st, 2021-03:33
I just don’t get how GS can make such a tremendous watch for such a low price, the zeratsu finishing is outrageous!!! So is the quality of materials used and the sheer amount of engineering put into the design and the movement. What really got me since I ...  

The Pepsi has a great bezel

 
By: afaleh : July 1st, 2021-12:25
And the history with Pan Am, but the case finishing is really sub par. I hope GS catches on and has a ripple effect among Swiss brands in the same way Lange got them to develop fiber in house chronographs

You're being very generous today afaleh, only sub par and not resembling a tin can and bottom of the barrel.

 
By: oyster case : July 1st, 2021-15:07
Yes, I hope Rolex follow GS and make the Pepsi a 44.2 mass of steel with an asymmetrical bezel. Maybe rename it the Grand Pepsi?

:)

 
By: afaleh : July 1st, 2021-17:16
I do hope my previous comments did not offend any admirers of the Pepsi, that certainly was not the intent. We all enjoy wrist watches in our own way, and have our own take on them, we are fortunate to have so many to choose from. That said, the GS really... 

The bezel illustrates well the difference between Rolex and GS. Rolex would never so strangely compromise...

 
By: oyster case : July 1st, 2021-20:08
the display because they couldn’t manufacture a symmetrical bi colour bezel using sapphire. It’s not the 44.2mm by 14.4mm heavy steal case or accuracy only to +8 on the wrist or short two year warranty or strained design coherence. Surface shine is valued... 

Not sure what the point is

 
By: afaleh : July 2nd, 2021-01:32
But it seems I really did rub you the wrong way. In hindsight, these are enthusiast forums and passions run high, I should have considered that before describing the Pepsi so harshly, my apologies to you sir if that upset you. That aside, this particular ... 

Yes…interesting..

 
By: myles721 : July 1st, 2021-10:51
The GMT market is pretty competitive. Being an Omega guy I went with this one. The specs are very impressive but I wish they had included the military time on the dial as well like your Seiko. ...  

I was considering that same Omega

 
By: afaleh : July 1st, 2021-12:23
Great watches both, GS edged it out as I wanted to diversify my collection and had too many Omegas, but they both have their strong points.

Blown Away by Grand Seiko

 
By: Boxcar : July 1st, 2021-11:44
Even though I already have an SBGE 001 I am really tempted by this watch . I often wonder why some collectors have the several variations of the same model . That said this watch is different enough. It is also a Hi Beat instead of a Spring Drive.

I actually prefer the hi beat

 
By: afaleh : July 2nd, 2021-01:33
Not sure why but I just haven’t warmed up to SD yet, just prefer all mechanical so far

Hi Beat vs Spring Drive

 
By: Boxcar : July 2nd, 2021-02:46
I have two of each if you include my Eichi II . Both have there appeal . I think of the Spring Drive as mostly mechanical . I guess the SD is like buying a car where the computers help the mechanical parts of the car function better ,

Interesting take on SD

 
By: afaleh : July 2nd, 2021-02:56
I have not delved too deeply into it, definitely worth considering when it comes in a package as nice as the Eichi II. Wow that’s a nice watch, would love to see some pics and hear your take on it after ownership please

Interesting Take

 
By: Boxcar : July 2nd, 2021-19:38
I have posted some photos before but I will take some new ones soon. I feel very fortunate to have one . It required me to get rid of a couple very nice watches that I did not wear often. It is not a watch with an complications but the finishing is superb... 

Me as well…

 
By: myles721 : July 2nd, 2021-11:22
One of the reasons I own a mechanical anti magnetic is reliability ie…no electronic components. I dislike the way it looks as well…they do a good job of hiding the electronics but…uggh.

I love this watch but

 
By: Jesper : July 1st, 2021-18:24
IMO it could be improved with a “click” bezel that doesn’t spin freely. Except of this it is top

Fully agree on that point

 
By: afaleh : July 1st, 2021-19:11
The Willy Nilly bezel is one area in addition to the bracelet that could have improved

AM/PM is at 6:00 and 18:00 but depending on the month it can vary by a few minutes on either side. So, no, not actual am/pm.

 
By: oyster case : July 2nd, 2021-15:42
"On a standard meridian at the equator one might expect the Sun to rise at 6:00 A.M. and set at 6:00 P.M., but the Sun rises at 6:03 A.M. in July, a summer month, and also rises late, at 6:11 A.M. in February, a winter month. It rises seven minutes before... 

From Monochrome

 
By: oyster case : July 2nd, 2021-15:27
"The dark section, for night hours, features luminous numerals, while on the white section of the bezel, for day hours, it is the background that is illuminated to contrast with the dark numerals. Pretty cool. Also, Grand Seiko deliberately divided the be... 

I don’t see where the design flaw is

 
By: afaleh : July 2nd, 2021-15:44
It seems like you are assuming all manufacturers will have to go to the same length Rolex did in manufacturing the Batman and Pepsi bezels? I wouldn’t consider that a design flaw in the same fashion I don’t mind a date display at 4, doesn’t have to be a b... 

I did

 
By: afaleh : July 2nd, 2021-16:27
But that doesn’t change my view, the purpose of the bicolor bezel is to indicate which side is AM and which is PM. That is accomplished. All bi colored bezels are approximate to some degree, the GS more so. I see the illuminated asymmetrical bezel as a de... 

My good sir, the bezel does not indicate which side is am or pm lol. The day does not start at 6:30 and end at 17:30 lol

 
By: oyster case : July 2nd, 2021-16:44
Equation of time effects occur on both sides of the distribution therefore 6:00 and 18:00 is entirely legitimate, accurate and why it has been universally adopted.