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Collecting philosophy at crossroad: vintage or new issued pieces?
I received my 1st patek from my dad almost 20 years ago, and it is 3800 and still keeps good time.
10 years later, I did manage to acquire my 1st patek chrono piece and it is this one
I have continued to add more pieces, and all of them are new pieces from ADs.
However, it was only these 2 years that my good friend opens my eyes for another way of collection and introduced me to some good friends in this great community. So I managed to add this one which is now more than 20 years old:
and this one which is more than 50 years old now.
Now I have a dilemma, which way I should focus more: continue with new issued patek or go back to the past and find holy grail pieces, such as 1518 or 2499? With new patek pricing, seem that vintage pieces in someone's view are at bargain; still these vintage pieces, prices already increase so much. Anyway, would appreciate all advice 
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Collecting philosophy at crossroad: vintage or new issued pieces?
I received my 1st patek from my dad almost 20 years ago, and it is 3800 and still keeps good time. 10 years later, I did manage to acquire my 1st patek chrono piece and it is this one I have continued to add more pieces, and all of them are new pieces fro...
Collect what you love.
Not what you think to be a bargain. Today's bargains may well be tomorrow's nightmares and vice versa. Now, I can feel you're in trouble. It is pretty rare to love both vintage and moderns, but I can understand you very well, as I don't care the watch bei...
Fantastic pieces!
Thank you for sending those pictures, I really enjoyed those. I just came from Patek's Geneva Salons yesterday. They are making a full renovation to a 62 years old relatively rare vintage piece and in 24 weeks I will see the results. The show is costing a...
Some thoughts
Hello Winvade, I think the advice of buying what you like is very good - here are some thoughts on getting there: 1. The vintage market is more treacherous than the AD/new watch market, simply because you will not have the security of knowing the full his...
Auctions
if a watch at auction goes for less than expected then there is likely something wrong with the piece. Many auction pieces have enhanced dials or other mismatches or internal problems that are not readily obvious to the lay public. Over the years whenever...
Old or new?
Its a dilemma facing almost every collector in every field: It is a question I have spend more than 250'000 hours reflecting on in my life. Although what Nicolas sais ' buy foremost what you love' is generally excellent advice I think as often in life, it...
From what I see, you seem to be doing just fine all
by yourself and don't completely understand your dilemma as your current collection seems to cover a lot of bases and price points. So I guess the question would be, what are you wanting to achieve? Holy grail pieces? They are considered differently by ea...
That is great collection
Why don't you do bait of both. Seems like you are doing ok so far. Enjoy them...it's a phenom collection.
Most would envy your collection winvade !
As much as one would buy the piece you love, one needs to consider affordability. In your case, I doubt the latter is your main concern It's more like "what's next" in Patek for you? Servicing a vintage Patek is not hassle free, I had recently sent in one...
Another dilemma is
Whether to wear a watch with others' history or wear a watch that in the future will have a history totally made by you Thoughts and advice are appreciated
History
This seems to be a major issue with several "owners" and doublessly often a pivital point in deciding to buy "new" as apposed to old or "vintage". Perhaps I see this very differently. Firstly, as most did of course not actually design or make the watch bu...
NJ, thanks for your advice...I agree
that buying a history as a factor when buying watches is a bit overrated...
5078P
Whow! the 5078P was a real surprise to see in your collection..next up a 5079J with cathedral gong?
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Hi Winvade, Did you purchase your 5078P from the Salon in Geneva. really a great looking PP Repeater. Thanks Jeff
Superb collection
Hi, As I plan to begin like you with a steel Nautilus I'd be happy to end up like you too! In fact there's not a single watch in your collection that I would not buy! Where should you go next? Hard to say as I don't know you. Where would I go if I had tho...
Thanks, Dje, for your advice. :)
Hearing your response is a compliment to me! Sound like an interesting list that you help put together for new watches. Could you please elaborate more on vintage form watches and why you like them?
Form watches
Well, It's a matter of taste and I have always loved form watches. Even the desired Nautilus is a form watch for me! Patek Philippe has produced many very daring form watches of a high appeal, and some more classic ones that are equally appealing. A form ...
GoWithYourHeart
I'd go with my heart, And buy what called out to me more. Having said which, vintage calls out to me so much more! I find vintage watches (PP vintage watches outstanding to say the least) were made with so much more care and attention, with less of a pure...
Thanks, rishad771
Agree with you that these challenges of vintage watches keep increasing.
Lovely watches and you have nothing to prove so go with..
..what you love and let the watches choose you.
As you mentioned pricing: my ambitions of becomming a collector are crushed already :-) ..
I do not really know at the moment what to make out of this weird times: I can not find in all the sources a price increase over such a short time in such a massive way, as Patek is following at the moment. As a matter of principal: not a, standard at lea...
Uhhhhhhmmmmm
Dear sir, You need no advice. Your collection is incredible. Focus? Now you start focusing? I'm just being humorous, or trying... I think vintage Pateks are vastly preferable to new ones, in terms of beauty, especially the movements. Your new, newer Patek...
Thanks, Mostel, for your advice. I have been
trying the independent route before and like it too. sorry for poor quality picture...
Thanks, tic-toc.
I have followed your posts before and appreciate your advice here. These are 2 great pieces. What's about a new 5950 or 5951 with a white dial, if they allow?
My opinion only .....
I think in terms of movement, 5959 and 5950 has NO difference other than the metal and the size. I greatly appreciate 5959 for its movement, cause there isn't another one out there that is capable to provide this split function at this size. In the long r...
Agree, Tic-Toc. Will take 5004P
anyday...still wait for the right moment either to wear myself or pass it to my daugther... Just hope that 3939 case is a bit bigger......
tic-toc, can tell that this is your favorite
nice piece indeed! have you serviced them yet?