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Politically the same time, yes. But astronomically it is not ...
... the same time and therefore not the same sunset/dawn.
Riyadh is ca. 7 degree further east than Mecca, and therefore dawn is approx. 28 min earlier in Riyadh.
Now, wheter the political or the astronomical time is used is something that I can not answer or wheter it is looked as "accurate" into this matter.
Still, as you are saying, a Mecca edition of the RO EdT would be something very interesting.
I find the AP RO EdT is one of the most desirable watches at the moment.
Only two drawbacks with this one: very, very complicated watch and therefore possibly could prone to malfunction.
Secondly: it is very individualized by the chosen place.
But: who can afford to buy such a watch can also afford to repair and maintain it.
And even on the used market it will not come cheap to buy and again: who can afford that can still afford to exchange the location.
Regards
Moritz
After the Dubai Edition, here is another 5130: The Mecca.
I was quite surprised to discover, a few days ago, the 5130 " Mecca ", after seeing the " Dubai ". Yes, PP did the same with the 5110, but here, with the " Mecca " and the " Dubai ", we go a step ahead. The Dubai showed a superb all black dial, and to say...
Green is the colour of the prophet Mohammed ...
... so it had to be green. Patek did research this peace well, as you can see. Now, wheter it is easthethically pleasant or not is always an idividual issue. I personally do not like the idea of enagaging religion that much with watches, or any other comm...
Love the green guilloche!
Linking a luxury watch to a religious place seems in fairly poor taste as the concepts of religion and ostentatious wealth are not exactly complimentary. Having said that, as a heathen non-believer I'd pick the green version over the blue in a heartbeat.
Personally, I find it weird, and I felt the same when GG released their Mecca Octo.
But in the PP case, my guess is that they will sell, and not only for these religious reasons... Hence the paradox, cultivated by PP throught the concept of LE on this watch. Best, Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-07-21 13:33:36
no its not the colour of the profit ,, it is the colour of
the flag of the kingdom of saudi arabia where city of mecca is best regards dana
I a point, is a point. But still...
To me the reference to Mecca is clearly a religious aspect. No other city alteration (just the Dubai) has a also a differently coloured dial. And in general: green is the colour of Islam and the prophet. Regards Moritz
you may be right,, and i totally respect your opinion
but is sold here in saud as a celebration of finishing biulding the great clock recently in mecca.. its huge! and with no doubt the biggest clock in the world! i have added scans of it under mecca thread but again i totaly understand what your saying all ...
Your post explaines the Mecca WT ...
and completes the whole picture: it has to do something with this new gigantic public watch in Mecca, too. I read about it but did not do any research. It is a very nice move from Patek to have launched such a watch. Regards Moritz
You do, you do ...
it is the 100 annyversari Oeding-Erdel WT 5110 from 2006. Only four times eight, in each metal hence four time, were made with a red Münster, dial still the "same". I read somewhere also from a Munich edition, but not really sure if the author has si...
I have to Concur with the Count on this
Green generally speaking is the color that represents Muslims, if you look at the Flag of Pakistan, the Green represents the Muslim Population and the White the various different ethnic groups and minority religions. S
Salman please ask before you post!! ISLAM HAS NO COLOR
i will not post about religion on this forum and if you have anything to replay you are welcome to e-mail me but please do not post anything like that before you ask religious people and i'm sure you have many reliable ones around you in "Q8"(nabeel alawa...
Apologies
Did not mean to offend you but I am entitled to my opinion based on facts and history. There is no right or wrong, only perspectives and views. Your are entitled to yours and I respect that. I would also like to point out that I did not discuss religion b...
no need to apologize
Salman, you are right green is one of the colours of islam. Green is the traditional colour of islam because the tribe of the prophet mohammed had a green flag and to them it represented paradise. Hence the watch is green. I dont think patek is emulating ...
Gadgetty would be if it could show the direction to Mecca ...
... with a mechanism that would allow the city ring to disengage, than rotate like a compass and show towards Mecca! That is also a key interest of Muslims, to know where east (Mecca), when they pray. That is something that Patek has missed here. I change...
Gerald Genta did it with their Octo, if I remember it correctly.
The dial was green for the same religious reasons than on the WT, and I wonder if they didn't include a compass... Best, Nicolas.
Thank you for the info about GG ...
... and yes, GG had a compass in the winder to locate Mecca, you were right. I just found the info on the net, did not know about it until you mentioned. In Patek's case: much, much more appealing interpretation of the topic! Also to a wider Muslim audien...
Don't you find it is a bit simple?
Just putting " Mecca " in green and the central part of the dial may not be seen as an " appealing Interpretation ( ? ) of the topic. It is a simplist " clin d'oeil " to Muslims, or to Flippers. For the GG , it is much more complicated: Did you see anyone...
Nicolas, this watch has practical use for Muslims around the world!
GG's was "just a GMT" and a pp calendar, apparently. What Patek did is quite reasonable: some Muslims orientate themselfs during fastening period Ramadan to Mecca time. Although not really "compulsory", as the local time (sunset and dawn) is the accepted ...
When I spoke about Flippers, I didn't think AT ALL about Muslims.
Maybe a Sunrise and Sunset Time would have been more useful for them, than a WT? I think every " Mecca Muslim " knows what time it is in Mecca. So, I don't see very well what's the point with this WT, which is therefore a LE... But I may miss something, h...
Certainly AP should think of a Mekka RO Equation ...
... possibly the have a part with the coordinates of Mekka already in theire program. If not they should soon have one ! Yes, Nicolas, maybe it is a thing that Muslim will "understand" best. As much as I know about Muslim faith, it is during Ramadan "good...
we did receive 2 AP EoT set to Riyadh which is the same time as in mecca
but one for mecca for sunrise/sunset would be also intersting. just to clarify in the holy month of ramadan Muslims fast and break their fast based on their local time where they are located and not time specific to Mecca. for example we break our fast in...
Politically the same time, yes. But astronomically it is not ...
... the same time and therefore not the same sunset/dawn. Riyadh is ca. 7 degree further east than Mecca, and therefore dawn is approx. 28 min earlier in Riyadh. Now, wheter the political or the astronomical time is used is something that I can not answer...
I will reveal my identity to AP if ...
they decide to reward me with, let us say: the number one model of this Mecca line ! Regards Moritz
I find it 'refreshing'
Hello all I'm new here but been lurking around for quite some time. Color is cool IMO (at least not as green as the sub C) ... but clearly not for the majority. Probably why Patek made it a limited edition? I agree that the blue is better. Just hope that ...
I like it!!
I really like the color of the dial but would need to see the color of the dial in person. I didn't know the significance of the green dial to Mecca, thank you for that info.
I have it. it look so nice, will post pictures when I am back from holiday
It looks more nice in real than pictures. Didn't take it with me when I travel.... Will post pics soon
We now can expect a Moscow LE with the Red dial. :) [nt]
No message body This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-07-21 23:00:07
Oh no!!! :-)
When that starts to happen there is no denying it is a marketing ploy. LOL Aloha, Bob
Not bad
Glad its in Platinum and not in White Gold like the Gerald Genta (conservative Muslims don't wear gold) however the liberals aren't going to buy it and the conservatives will never buy a watch with a Cross anywhere on it, so the middle of the road guys an...
Green is a reasonable colour on Mecca & dial surface,
but, shading the Patek logo too is way beyond comprehension: (1). Doesnt contrast well with the dial (2). Overpleasing the community by changing its trademark colour!
Sorry, but it's not my cuppa of tea...........
Then again I said the same about the Rolex 50th Anniversary Sub. Perhaps its just the green thing!
nice but.......
Hi Folks, No doubt,many love to see these edition with distinctive colours highlighting some special cities/places and etc but dont you think patek is slightly way out of the family traditional track???just my 2cts thoughts anyway. Then we have to wait fo...
Maybe Thierry try to micmic VC?
Neither do I appreciate the way they run after the master $$$!
No doubt.....
Hi James, No doubt,its the work of new coming commander.Lets just have our finger crossed and hope to see patek march into the next century with traditional generation inherits spirit and not as what you have stressed earlier. TQ BHK9
